Tuesday, October 12, 2004

The Emperor's New Suit

Tailor to presidents Georges de Paris falls on his needle, says the box-bulge is just a pucker along the jacket's back seam. Wow. I've never seen a suit, or any garment, with a back like this -- except maybe that lumpy dress I once made in home economics, with the darts inside out.

Note to the White House press claque: Enough with the “internet conspiracy buffs” BS, hacks! This is something called a story. Remember those? Off your knees!

New: An earpiece in Bush made him an instant whiz kid on Indonesian politics, speculates State Department contract interpreter Fred Burks, who first interpreted for Bush at a September 19, 2001 meeting with Indonesian president Megawati Soekarnoputri. In a letter published on democrats.com and reprinted at this website, (and confirmed in a telephone conversation with IsBushWired) he says Bush displayed an astonishing grasp of obscure details of Indonesian politics during a 90-minute meeting. "I concluded either that Bush was much more intelligent than we had been led to believe, or that somehow someone was feeding answers to him through a hidden earpiece...Having worked directly with President Bush twice since then, and having additionally talked with many of my fellow interpreters who have worked directly with him, I am now certain that he could not have had that much knowledge of Indonesia. He doesn't even read the daily newspaper to keep up with what's being reported in the press. I am convinced that he must have been using some sort of earpiece through which someone was telling him what to say."

Odd Goings-on in Tennessee

Somebody claiming to be "Brad Menfil" of Knoxville, TN, recently posted on Portland's Indymedia site that he was told by a Bush campaign worker named Scott Zale that Bush is known among many campaign workers to be wired. Here's the text of the post, followed by a rebuttal that raises more questions than it answers:

"I have contacts within the Republican Party. I was told by Scott Zale, a Repulican operative in eastern Tennessee that he knows it to be a fact that Bush was wired. He said that within the Bush campaign, there are certain mid-level staffers that have leaked this tidbit because it was just "too fantastic to ignore."

Zale told me that the transmission device is popular with other high profile officials in the Bush administration. It helps everybody stay "on message." Zale said that Bush was only fed ready responses to just certain types of questions. He didn't know which questions those were but admitted that Bush just sounded(to him)to be more articulate at certain "oportune" times.

Zale confided that he was told that the president wore a loose fitting jacket during both debates. The device protuded because Bush has a tendency to hunch over and shrug his shoulders a lot.

This is a true story as it was told to me. If you want to know more, please contact Scott Zale at the Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Knoxville, Tn. Thanks."


IsBushWired called Bush-Cheney in Knoxville and confirmed that a Scott Zale was known there, though the woman who answered the phone said, "he's hardly ever here. He has a day job."

Meanwhile,somebody posting as "Scott Zale" repliedon the portlandindymedia site, under the headline "Scott Zale speaks for himself":

Please shut down this blog. I was informed this morning by the national editor of the Knoxville Times that my name was invoked by a man named "Brad Menfil" in regards to this out-of-control story.

It is true that I work for Bush-Cheney here in Tennessee. My office is in Gatlinburg, not Knoxville. Although I do happen to work at least two days a week in Knoxville. I am a staff accountant and one of my duties is to process local contributions. As part of that duty, I have to wire funds to the national committee in Washington D.C. So I do have national Republican contacts and have heard many things.

"Brad" is not his real name but I suspect he is or may be my counterpart in the Washington collections office. He has probably been to Tennessee about 15 times in the last 7 weeks, though he does not live here. I won't give his real name (even though he felt it was necessary to give mine).

The Knoxville Times called me at 6am this morning asking me to confirm or deny the "Bush is Wired" story they read here at Portland IMC. My immediate response was, "What is the Portland IMC?" and I then I issued a "no comment". Other than that, I did say that "Brad Menfil" is not a real person.

Please stop speculating about this. Our president is a great man and can only get hurt by this. I suspect this isn't going to go away and I regret anything that I said to "Brad" that may contribute to downfall of a great man and president.

Please drop this for the good of our country. We have bigger problems and should not be distracted by matters that don't ultimately determine the measure of an honest man. I want to say that the right answers are what matter most, not whether or not those answers were "fed" my someone else. President Bush is a good messenger regardless.

Thanks, Scott Zale, Senior Staff Accountant, Bush-Cheney Tennessee.


The person writing as "Brad Menfil" then posted back to Portland Indymedia:
"Scott Zale is right, "Brad Menfil" is not my real name and I didn't hear this story from him, he heard it from me. Sorry Scott.
I do work for Bush-Cheney and I can olny say that the substance of my first posting is correct, even though I used a fake name. I hope everybody understands why I would do this. I got a call from Scott this morning (actually, about 10 minutes ago). He said that he had been contacted by ABC and Fox after his own posting. I don't share his belief that ignoring this would be good for the country. I'm sorry I involved Scott and didn't have enough courage to use my real name. I hope the truth gets out and Scott is absolved.
Thanks for reading this, "Brad Menfil."


IsBushWired looked at the Knoxville Times online. It didn't look at all like a real newspaper, as Glenn Ward, editor of The South Knoxville and Seymour Times Sentinel confirmed. "I've never heard of it," he said. Looking at the website, he agreed that it seemed to be a lot of clippings taken off news wires. So, who called Mr. Zale at 6 in the morning? Or did anybody call Scott Zale at all? Scott Zale seems to exist, but who can be sure? Maybe somebody else used his name to write to Portland Indymedia.

Update: Webmeisters, thanks for your work in digging up the provenance of the Knoxville Times site; many of you reported that it was created 8/19/2003 in Australia by a John Mcevoy, who owns a company Mainstream Capital EC, headquartered in Manama, Bahrain, with offices in Sydney, Australia. A PRWeb July press release announced it was launching a new search engine called 100.com.

Curiously, when I first looked at the Knoxville Times site Monday afternoon, there was no masthead, no information about ownership, not even an email address or the word "Tennessee" in the title. Following my posting about the "fake" newspaper Monday afternoon, the site added a box explaining, "The Knoxville Times is essentially a local Knoxville newspaper, but with a national and international perspective....The biggest advantage we have is that we are an online newspaper, which means we are constantly refreshing our stories as more and more information comes to hand."

The lead story, however, about environmentalist protestors at a local coal company exective's home in West Knoxville Sunday night, is not a story at all, but a link to a posting about the action by the protestors at an anarchist website, www.infoshop.org.

The "newspaper" box goes on: "We like to think if you're looking for breaking news out of Knoxville, Tennessee, the United States, or the world, you'll look for it first at the Knoxville Times."

Hmmm. I don't think so. It's a genuinely weird front for something or other. Who is John McEvoy, anyway, and who's the editor?

The Zale letter also reads in part like an official Bush-Cheney production, whereas "Brad Menfil's" second letter sounds faintly genuine -- if there's a real person in any of this. But I wouldn't bet on it. It could all be fiction cooked up by Karl Rove and Co. We won't waste any more time on it unless a credible source gets in touch with us with a great deal of information that checks out.

Incidentally, legit editor Glenn Ward said his own newspaper, which can be Googled (though they don't have a web site yet) has been reporting lately on the recent shutdown -- for no obvious reason, he said -- by the FCC with "heavy FBI involvement" of a tiny, 100-watt unlicensed radio station in the area that had been reporting critically on local matters, including the federal TVA project. )

582 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello,

I am a TV journalist from Britain and I was wondering exactly the same thing a few weeks back. When I'm spoke at through my earpiece live on TV, I have the same behavioural response - slight pause, strange eye movements (I'm pretty new).

You have to be very well trained not to shift your eyes a bit when someone is talking at you through the earpiece.

Secondly - and clearly this is not proof - but it might be worthwhile getting in touch with the producers of 24 (very big in the UK). In the third series, episode 5 or 6, they included a fictional debate between President Palmer and the challenger. Palmer was wired with an invisible earpiece, thrugh which Jack Bauer told him about an imminent threat. Maybe this is just life imitating art. Or maybe they were trying to make a point. Worth asking about.

11:16 AM  
Anonymous said...

Of course Bush is wired. Karl Rove doesn't want a repeat of the morning of 9/11/01 when W didn't know that he should take charge upon learning America was under attack.

11:23 AM  
Anonymous said...

This country needs another 527 group to splash hi-definition pictures of bush's hump all over the major networks to get this story out of the blogs and into the 24 hour news channels. Maybe it could be called Microphone Manufacturers for Truth ... The AP picture itself is the most convincing part of this story I have seen.

11:31 AM  
Anonymous said...

I think bush was wired. everyone knows his suits are tailor made and have no puckering! Puleaze! Check out my modern art on ebay, member name artemizzia! Thanks! :)

11:35 AM  
Anonymous said...

You all crack me up with your weird theories. I may be just another nieve 17 year old, but even IF Bush was wired, would it really matter? In most peoples opinions he lost the debate anyway, so teh question should not be "Was he wired?" as much as "Did he fire his aides?".

11:44 AM  
Anonymous said...

Intersting that everyone is anonymous. Maybe we are all justifiably concerned with the implementation of the Patriot Act as it applies to those who would criticize Bush.

All Bush needs to do is provide a "credible" explanation and maybe the subject would disappear.

The dazed look, which one poster suggested was him concentrating on the little voice in his head (I wonder how he could stand the echo), is a natural look for him when the s*** eating grin is not in place.

50-100 million qualified men/women in this country and this is what we ended up with.

God (or your chosen source of guidance) help us all.

11:46 AM  
Anonymous said...

This is something that Mr. Bush should answer to. Let's not just talk amongst ourselves. Let us write emails, make phone calls and write letters to the debate commission and the media to call for an answer....especially before the next debate. Let's not delay!

11:53 AM  
Anonymous said...

get real!! it's just a wrinkle and a shadow!!!!

11:56 AM  
Anonymous said...

It is definately not a pucker. There is some sort of device under his jacket. If he had performed better during the debate I might agree that he was channeling Karl Rove and/or Dick Cheney but he did not do well. It makes me wonder if it could be some sort of medical monitoring device like a heart monitor (that would explain the box and the wire). If it is a medical device he would not want that getting out since it would make him appear weak. (And also make us look closer at Mr. Cheney to see if we want him to be president) He also kept fidgeting with the front of his jacket in the 2nd debate (did he move the box to the front). If anyone has time to go through pictures of Bush with his back turned it would be interesting to know if he is wearing the box at any other time.
An additional note: he has fallen on numerous occasions, some of them causing injury, which could also be caused by some medical conditions.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous said...

Relax... it's just an 8-track player and he's listening to the soundtrack of "This Land" from th JibJab cartoon.

12:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

Look at this clip from:

members.cox.net/unmarked/002.wmv

Windows Media Player works for me. If you watch closely, about the time he says ...people in the United States.." he will adjust his jacket with his left hand. You will see a dark thin line between his jacket and his tie. Is this a wire that would be part of a wired setup?

You decide.

12:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

PS: this refers to the post re the film clip where Bush adjusts his tie. This is from the second debate on Friday, not the first.

12:20 PM  
Anonymous said...

I think it's very possible Bush is wired. During the first debate when Bush was hunched over the podium, I noticed the square lump on his back. I just figured it was a remote microphone put on him by the network in case his podium mike went out. If it wasn't, then it's pretty damn suspicious. I also noticed during the second debate that Bush kept sticking his left hand into his jacket. It looked weird because he obviously wasn't adjusting the seam of his jacket because his hand went in too far. It could be, though, that he was fiddling with the volume or reception. If this is true and the Dems are smart they won't push this. They'll just jam the receiver during the next debate and watch Bush come apart live in front of a national audience.

12:28 PM  
Jack B said...

The fact that Kerry is supposedly ahead in the polls shows just what a bunch of twits America is filled with and this whole debate about Bush being wired proves it. Immediately after the debate President Bush was surrounded by dozens of people shaking his hands, patting him on the back, and so forth. Surely if there was a "box" strapped to his back one of those people would have felt or seen it and do you really think he'd let anyone get that close to him if he was? Kerry may have style, but that won't convince a child-killing terrorist not to attack us. It's much better to have a backbone than a nice suite and perfect hair. What the hell is wrong with this pathetic, superficial nation?

12:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

You paranoid morons. Don't any of you have enough gray matter in your heads to realize that the President of the United States wears body armor during public appearances, and the supposed shape you are all in a tizzy over is exactly where you would find an additional armor plate to protect the spinal cord. If the President was wearing a wire, don't you think that the reciever would be number one, far smaller... And number two, hidden down at the waist where the suit jacket would better conceal it. Get a grip people. If you want Kerry to win so badly, try arguing positions instead of this idiotic blather.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous said...

To Jack B. who said: "What the hell is wrong with this pathetic, superficial nation?"

Well said, Jack. What is wrong with this pathetic superficial nation is that it let George Bush mislead them in Iraq and took them to the cleaners economically, and they may still give him another four years.

Talk about innocent children being killed, what the heck do you think is happening in the streets or Iraq right now?

Rather than go after Al Qaeda, Bush went after the Bush family nemesis, Saddam. The result is that Iraq is now the number one breeding site for new terrorists.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

After the first debate a number of my co-workers said it looked like the normally super-fit Bush had developed "osteoporosis" since the Republican Convention.

It's not just the box bulge, it's the new dowagers hump posture that's a puzzle. Question for techies and 24 hour news anchors: When people are wired do their necks slip into their suits for comfort?

12:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

To Jack B. who said: "What the hell is wrong with this pathetic, superficial nation?"

Well said, Jack. What is wrong with this pathetic superficial nation is that it let George Bush mislead them in Iraq and took them to the cleaners economically, and they may still give him another four years.

Talk about innocent children being killed, what the heck do you think is happening in the streets or Iraq right now?

Rather than go after Al Qaeda, Bush went after the Bush family nemesis, Saddam. The result is that Iraq is now the number one breeding site for new terrorists.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

There may be another answer for all this. Here's a paragraph from the new issue of Newsweek, out today:
"In Minnesota, officials at the state's Division of Homeland Security are worried about another kind of election threat. The agency recently issued a flier telling poll workers how to spot a "homicide bomber" in the line. Among the things to look for: "Unusual shapes or bulges protruding from a person's mid-section" and "May be seen praying fervently to himself/herself, giving the appearance of whispering to someone."

12:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

If Bush was wired during both debates, there is a simple explanation for a lump on his back in the first one and adjusting his jacket from the front in the second debate. Bush gave a terrible performance during the first debate. Remember, though, that in the first 30 minutes he was fine. Suddenly, he came apart. What if the receiver cut out during the debate because it was on his back (coat was so tight against his back that maybe it switched off the receiver or the receiver needed an adjustment and Bush couldn't get to it). This would help explain his fumbling performance, since he didn't bother practicing before the debate. By the second debate, the receiver is in his coat pocket where Bush can adjust it if need be.

12:41 PM  
Red7Eric said...

'Anonymous' writes: "You paranoid morons. Don't any of you have enough gray matter in your heads to realize that the President of the United States wears body armor during public appearances, and the supposed shape you are all in a tizzy over is exactly where you would find an additional armor plate to protect the spinal cord."

Actually, that was one of the questions that journalists put to the White House. Bush's aides say that he wasn't wearing a bulletproof vest. Besides, now that Kerry is a nominee, he's getting Secret Service protection too -- and would likely be wearing the same gear as Dubya. Try again.

12:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Are you people serious? I'm not sure that i've ever witnessed such a desperate group of people trying to remove someone from office. As a political moderate who has voted for both parties, it's quite amazing to me that John Kerry may win when nobody knows what the heck he stands for. Do any of you actually know the issues or is it a matter of removing Bush without thought about the consequences?

How quickly we forget how terrible September 11th was and how easy it is to overlook that another attack has not happened since on U.S. soil...is everyone confident that John Kerry will supply the same protection? I'm a pro-choice, anti-death penalty, environmentalist...sounds liberal doesn't it? But I could never associate myself with the passionate, yet blind and wrongly directed group of people that will say and do anything to remove Bush. This constant search for any angle to attack is ugly and it's frankly hurting the political system far more than helping. Let's try and be a model for the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan who are trying hold democratic elections. Let's show them that we can elect a president without the mud-slinging desperate b.s. tactics I am seeing in this election.

Those of you who can think of nothing better than to rack your brains over this issue should move on, read a book, go for a walk, volunteer somewhere, please do something....I'm sorry that this is negative and sounds bitter, but I am getting bitter. All of you that read this can laugh and brush off my words, but somebody needs to take a stance for clear thought. Actually, now i'm mad that I spent this much energy on the topic...time to take my own advice and get off the soapbox.

ps. Send both political parties a message and vote Nader. Bush may not be the smartest and most savvy, and John Kerry is way too rich to really understand 99% of the people of this country (owning 7 houses doesn't make me feel like he understands my needs), but Nader at least isn't in the back pocket of the special interest groups. Think about it.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

you are a shit head and you spend way to much time on this "blog". you are a sorry excuse for an american and if john kerry is elected president i hope that osama bin laden decides to plan another attack and blows your head off.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

I'm posting anonymously because I don't need any more crap filling up my e-mail box. This is the dumbest most ignorant statements I have ever heard! You should all be ashamed with yourselves!

12:53 PM  
Anonymous said...

After some computer enhanced analysis it's become quite clear what's going on here:

http://www.ivtp.com/denial2.gif

12:56 PM  
Anonymous said...

Just listening to how Bush spoke (at the debate and on several other public occasions) it seemed exactly like he was wearing a wire. It sounded like he was just being fed responses and repeating them coldly as if reading from a book - not really answering a person or at least in a semi personal way.

I for one think he's been wired for years.

12:58 PM  
NBachers said...

Here's something to pay attention to: There's a device called a Neurophone which enables you to hear by placing a couple of little disks anywhere on your skin! I know, because I've got one- it's a small box, like the one alledgedly seen under Bush's suit coat. There are little 1" disks like Walkman headphones. You can place them against your skin anywhere on your body and your inner ear hears them. You can input music or voice or any kind of sound. Check out http://www.phisciences.com for a description.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous said...

Regarding HUMPGATE:

Are any of the news channels running this story?

1:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

At about 39 minutes into the first debate Bush flips his notebook over and you can see in the camera some of the mad scrawling that is on his notepad. Large letters, scribbles, but nothing I can completely make out, except maybe the word "Iraq" underlined twice. What kind of scrawl is it on those pages?

1:05 PM  
Anonymous said...

You people have got to be the dumbest group that I have ever came across. What are you all talking about? Who is the guy that said instead of catching Al Queda, we caught Saddam. Yeah, and so what we caught Saddam. Every other president of the United States has tried to catch this evil man, and Bush has. Stop being so petty and looking for some stupid reason to hate Bush. Yeah he has sent many military members to war, but that is what they signed up for. If they thought being in the military was going to be an easy ride then they shouldn't have enlisted. God bless our troops, and I would be devasted if my husband had to go, but I know that he is in the military to defend our country and you morons. If we pulled our troops out of Iraq now we would be attacked big time by terrorists. You rock Bush, I hope you kick Kerry's a**.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

If it turns out to be true that the President of the United States cheated during the debates by being prompted by an outside source he will have betrayed every Republican who trusted him to be an honorable man as well as all U.S.citizens. If this dishonorable act by President Bush is proven to be true he will have succeeded in makeing America the laughing stock of the World because we are supposed to be providing an example for all others to follow.

I am a 78 year old lifelong Democrat and will be voting for John Kerry, but. for the good of the Country and for all of those who had faith in President Bush I honestly hope there is a clear explaination for what appears to be someone dealing from the bottom of the deck

1:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

Are there any high resolution videos of the debate? I'd like to see more than just the picture that was posted.

1:17 PM  
BDGSF said...

Bravo on getting the mention in the AP story! Regardless of whether or not Bush was actuallly wired — and mounting evidence shows that he may have been — this misleader-in-chief obviously needs all the help he can get in order to distract the American public from the Wrong policies he has put into place for the benefit of his corporate-welfare fat-cat friends.

It's about time Bush is unmasked for the fraud that he is.

Please see "America Is A Liberal Concept" at http://brunocerous.blogspot.com for more ways in which he's just plain WRONG.

"Imagine no liberals: The Taliban did."

1:24 PM  
Anonymous said...

I love the indignant responses from the Stepford Wives-like Bush lovers. Another site, www.mysterybulge.com has more on this subject - I'm sure there are other sites out there as well (in addition to the bloggers).

1:35 PM  
Anonymous said...

Do you mean he's wired, as in wearing electronic devices or wired, as in under the influence of chemical stimulants? From where I sat watching the last debate, both statements appeared to be accurate.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

Yesterday if you typed 'is bush wired' into a google news search you only got 12 articles. today over 630.

the server hosting this site is running at or near maximum capacity. has been for several days. This story went from one blog created 5 days ago to nytimes, washington post, bbc, reuters, associated press...all running stories in the last 48 hours.

so you republicans with your aggressive posts and 'how dare you question the president' just realize...

this snowball is turning into a news avalanche.

When 600+ articles are written in 24 hours about it you can't call it an 'internet conspiracy' anymore. This IS the global credibility test. This is about trust and deception.

will you continue to defend Bush through 'audiogate'?

1:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Uh, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the first debate the one Bush the worst in? If he's boxed up, why weren't they 'feeding' him new lines? Maybe John Kerry's people were blocking the transmission. God, you people are freaking moronic.

1:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

Funny. When you have CBS backpedalling on the Bush National Guard records, and then you have the poster above telling me that the press writing lots of stories about the transmitter, you expect me to believe the press? Many stories does not make it the truth...

1:53 PM  
Eduardo Cicarino said...

I'm a brazilian student.
I think Bush is a false man, he does everything to get the things he wants, and the problem is these things are bad for the world.
He's stupid and selfish.I'm very worried about this election because if Bush win irregularly again the world probably will not support it!!!

2:04 PM  
Anonymous said...

Is Rove constipated?
I haven't seen his post, yet.

2:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
you are a shit head and you spend way to much time on this "blog". you are a sorry excuse for an american and if john kerry is elected president i hope that osama bin laden decides to plan another attack and blows your head off


Why do so many people think that voting for Bush will protect them from another terrorist attack? What has he done to prove that he can protect us better than Kerry? It was during Bush's office that 9/11 occurred, in case some of you have forgotten. He didn't stop Osama Bin Laden then, did he? What is it that Bush has done for this country that makes him such a good president?

I don't really like Kerry, but he's a heckuva lot better than Bush. I would rather vote Nader, but I really don't think he has a chance to win. Why is it that in this supposed Democratic nation, you can only have political influence if you are 'friends' w/ big business?

I

2:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

It is always a pleasure to see when something hits a nerve. If the only explanation exonerating GWB offered by his campaign remains a pucker in his coat, then it seems quite reasonable for the blogosphere to use their collective abilities to figure it out and push hard for a more credible explanation and/or an admission. Isn't that what led to a reexamination of the CBS documents? As disappointed as many were that Rather then retracted that part of the story, it is important that this happened so that the rest of the story (Bush AWOL, etc.) was left intact. Same here. If Bush is cheating, that certainly would hurt him. However, lying and cheating is even worse, no? Even just lying is pretty bad, although that doesn't seem to bother some people... Good luck to the blogs and their readers. No matter what the explanation, it is worth knowing what it is.

2:12 PM  
Anonymous said...

it just goes to show it doesn't matter how well crafted the statements whispered into your ear are if the man delivering the statement is, according to some standardized test results, technically retarded.

The Debate In One Very Bad Limerick:

Last night, Bush had a little more fizz.
Iraq's not a mess, so he says.
He said, if he could,
He'd give us some wood,
But he's fucked us enough as it is.

2:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

I am a 14 year old reading about your political views and opinions. I have also just watched the movie Farhenheit 9/11. I do not agree or disagree with your views because, quite frankly, I'm a Canadian and could care less what goes on over there. Have fun guys.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous said...

I am a 14 year old reading about your political views and opinions. I have also just watched the movie Farhenheit 9/11. I do not agree or disagree with your views because, quite frankly, I'm a Canadian and could care less about what goes on over there. Have fun with your runaway politics guys! :D

2:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

No earpiece is needed. Bone conductivity will conduct the sound up his spine to his skull. That's how Rove can say Bush had no audio prompting - because it was done by bone conductivity.

2:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

i think you people are insane,why do you care so much if bush is wired? seriously you are just looking for dumb reasons to put him down, and if your going for kerry, maybe you should ask him what his plan really is?? im pretty sure all he knows how to do is critisize a perfectly good president and say When im president, this is my plan..and he never tells us his plan, he just goes back to all he knows how to do, wrongfully accuse people. so aucutally maybe you guys should for real wake up.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

Upthread, someone asked if the network media has been giving this issue any attention. I don't watch that much TV but this morning I did catch the tail-end of the Stephanopolous show. He ran a clip showing the now-famous bulge in Bush's back but claimed that he, Stenphanopolous, could not guess what it was.

So yes, the broadcast media are certainly aware but they are treating this with arm's length circumspection. They are in fact being led by the blogs.

"oracle"

2:33 PM  
Joshua said...

you guys are crazy. the real news is kerry's cheat sheet available to view at:

http://www.zombietime.com/kerry_at_first_debate/

or do posts like this get deleted?

joshua

2:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

Recently Bush has acquired a strange awkward gate, moving as if his diaper was hanging too low and he was keeping his legs apart to avoid contacting it. Whazzat? Hip dysplasia? Something gone wrong in the crotch area? Or is the power pack taped on there?

2:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

joshua

2:41 PM  
Anonymous said...

There are a lot of outraged friends of Bush posting here expressing anger at people for trying to follow this "bulge" issue to its conclusions. Their anger fails to recognize that this sort of thing, if true, is part of the old Bush pattern of operating on the edge of legality, and sometimes crossing it.

His tour of duty in the Guard, his insider selling of Harkin stock, the hanky panky in Florida in 2000, and most grievously, his lying to get us into the war in Iraq-- these are all part of the Bush modus operandi. It is this kind of odorous reputation following Bush that is giving energy to this story. The man cannot be trusted.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous said...

joshua
that wasn't a cheat sheet, it was a pen. kerry's campaign said taking it out of his pocket was technically a violation but chalked it up to a nervous habit.

2:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

I just stumbled to this site while reading the news. The photo does seem to indicate Bush has something underneath his suit. If it's a tailoring problem, then maybe Bush needs to switch tailors. If Bush is wired...hmm...I thought it was a debate between Bush and Kerry, not Bush and company vs. Kerry. It would not be a fair debate, and even if Bush is my man I would not want that. I am Canadian and thus watch 'As the American Election Turns' with some interest. Incidentally I do notice those pro-Bush comments tend to go for name-calling rather than logical and well-thought out responses. Is that typical of Bush supporters?

2:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

THIS IS FOR THE SITE OWNER SINCE EMAILS I TRY TO SEND HIM IN REPLY ARE BOUNCING:

oh! hahaha! I understand what yuo mean. There was never any site on www.bushiswired.com... when I found isbushwired, I liked it so much I just thought I'd register www.bushiswired.com ... like, an affirmative statement. I can redirect it to you if you like.
P.S. I hate bush too. email me and all mail to you is bouncing when I try to reply.

2:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

The suit cost $8000 using $1000/yd fabric made by the french tailor who has created suits for every president since LBJ. And since this 'hump/wrinkle/fold' is so strange and noticable don't you think if it was a stitching error the tailor wouldn't have let it go out to be seen by 60 million people?

2:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

The suit cost $8000 using $1000/yd fabric made by the french tailor who has created suits for every president since LBJ. And since this 'hump/wrinkle/fold' is so strange and noticable don't you think if it was a stitching error the tailor wouldn't have let it go out to be seen by 60 million people?

2:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

This just keeps getting better and better for all of us who've watched this nitwit weasel his way through the most bold-faced deceptions while his troglodyte ditto-head followers buy it all hook, line & sinker. First of all, his performance was terrible even if he had it (which is pretty pathetic).

That being said, I think there were several incidents during the debate where he looked more like a correspondent in the field reporting on a breaking story than a sitting head of state answering pre-screened questions. I just don't know how to explain that. I mean, the guy murders words when he's not in the middle of one of his live infomercials, we all know that...but nothing explains the extended pauses and the dodgy eyes that were seen several times during the debate.

Further than this, while the box shape may be explainable, the obvious wire-shaped hump leading to the right side of his neck leads me to believe that this is a plausible story that the media finally needs to at least look into beyond just doing the usual: Asking campaign officials about it and printing their responses as the authority while sources that contradict the party line go unquoted and have their beliefs run down with a few pithy and indescriptive phrases labelled under "but skeptics aren't so sure" or "many believe the opposite." It's time for the bloggers to hammer this one onto the nightly news in their cities!

I've written CBS Channel 2, Fox, NBC 5, and ABC 7 here in Chicago already and it's time that you all do the same. This so-called strong leader needs to stop getting handled with kid gloves by the media.

Dan S.
Chicago
ps__Don't believe all the total BS from this prevaricator about the draft...this is the big ugly that Bush has to keep under wraps in the days leading up to the election to win. Once he does, it's a blank check to smash his agenda through no matter how unpopular.

2:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

This is so ridiculous - Bush responded too quickly to be getting his words from elsewhere. You people have WAY too much time on your hands. Hope you had fun spending your weekend on Photoshop zooming in on our President's back so you could make stupid accusations that won't effect your life in any way at all. I was out having a good time =) I feel bad for you.

2:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

In a chat-group, somebody recently suggested using the term "Puppetgate" instead of "Wiredgate" to describe this current blogfest. Sounds right to me.

2:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

Oh dear...I thought it was mostly Bush supporters who are fond of name-calling. The fundamental issue of whether the president encumbent is cheating during debate is too important to be side tracked by name-calling. I agree...this should be brought to the attention to the whole country via the media...and let the truth come come out!

2:52 PM  
Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree that the tailor cannot be blamed. Are the Bush reps claiming this too was a wardrobe malfunction?

Lulu

2:53 PM  
Anonymous said...

You have this all wrong. The bulge is not some high tech
transmitter, it's a lithium ion power cell. Bush didn't show up for the first debate, a W-DROID replaced him! It was apparent that Ol' Lurch had no trouble beating the android in their first round. In he second debate, the defective droid was replaced by George W. himself and gave Lurch real competition. The big question...have the bugs been fixed in the W-DROID for the 3rd debate, or will the real George W. make an appearance in Tempe and spar with the socialist leaning Lurch?

2:55 PM  
Anonymous said...

I believe it to be a bullet-proof vest! (The Secret Service requires him to wear the vest in public.) Especially around kooks like the one's thinking the bulge to be a prompter device.

2:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

Question? If President Bush were wired, don't you think he'd have the latest and greatest equipment? I've been in video production for 5 years now and I have wireless mic's that I have people wear and you can't see them at all. There is no way President Bush would have been wearing a receiver that BIG and BULKY. And, there is no way he would have been wearing it on his back. Think about it, if someone like me has access to equipment that can be hidden under a t-shirt, would the President of the United States use something less than what I can get? It was probably body armour, get over it!!

2:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

No doubt Georges Bush is not smart, but I wonder if he would be so stupid to let the world see he carries an electronic receiver on hus his back, the seize of a hamburger! Are there any simular pictures of Clinton's pants after he met Monica Lewinsky?
Sorry, but in Europe we laugh at these kind of presumptions. Nail Bush on principles, not on trival details.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

Dan S,

I emailed CNN, two anchors at MSNBC and the NY stations. But they need to hear from more viewers and put a real reporter on it instead of their lazy-ass phoning around to reps for comments.

I think they're still intimidated by the Rather thing.

Can somebody get thru to the Air America Radio site? It crashes my computer (my browser's fault). Franken needs to blast off on this, raise some questions.

Lulu

3:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

There are at least two other occasions when Bush was being prompted via an earpiece. I recall these:

The day or two after the 2000 election when Gore had rescinded his acceptance of Bush's win. Bush has a press conference in Texas when he was obviously being prompted. He looked hung over that day.

At Bush's press conference right before the war when he was delivering Saddam an ultimatum. He did not read from notes -- he was being prompted from somewhere else.

3:05 PM  
Anonymous said...

All this talk of audio prompting got me wondering: Is there any definitive proof that Bush can read? There's a funny photo of him "reading" a book with a young schoolgirl, where she's actually doing the reading from her book while Bush is holding his book upside down (you'd think he'd at least notice the pictures don't work that way). Anyway, my husband said that my musings were ridiculous because, of course, Bush reads from teleprompters when he gives a State of the Union Address or something. But has he really been reading the teleprompters or just pretended to while having the lines read to him? Food for thought...the President may actually be a functional illiterate.

3:12 PM  
Anonymous said...

everybody gets what they deserve!
on the other hand: even a european like me does not want america to suffer from a chimp being president

3:20 PM  
misanthropologist said...

The New Yorker's recent profile of Georges de Paris (9/27/04) should remove any doubt that one of his hand-crafted jackets was poorly made or fit Bush too snugly. Bush likes a sturdy wool that hides wrinkles and wires -- "The President won't wear anything less robust than Super 100." Before measurements are taken, de Paris "will inquire whether the customer has any special needs: certain men may need a hidden pocket for cash, for instance; a diamond dealer may need a zippered pocket for diamonds; some customers need extra room for a gun." Reagan was de Paris's favorite Presidential customer, but W. "runs a close second. 'So nice! So friendly!' de Paris says of Bush, whom he sees sometimes three times a week, at the White House, for fittings."

3:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

Whether he was physically wired or not during the first debate, it seems apparent to me that Bush was physiologically wired during the second. His performance was nothing short of manic. He couldn't wait to jump out of his seat at the slightest perceived provocation (for Bush that would be something on the order of lint on Kerry's lapel). Further, at least one close-up of the president showed his eyes shifting rapidly from side-to-side in their sockets. If I met someone on the street acting like Bush, my first thought would be that that person was stoned.
Is it just me?

3:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

You people are liberal nut jobs. Get a life,PLEASE.

3:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

What pisses me off is that this story is "tailor made" (pun fully intended) for Drudge-- who was all over the "Kerry crib note story-- and yet he's had (so far, at least) nary a single word about it on his web site.

3:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

you people need to get a hobby or something. You need something to do. In other words, GET A LIFE>

3:41 PM  
Anonymous said...

I think Bush is wired, but I dont think he has some kind of wired device on his back. With the technology we have today, why would it be so big? He probably has something in his pocket or in the inside of his jacket. In my opinion he did terrible in the first debate, and did a little better in the one on friday. The republicans might have made him wear it because they didt want him to sound like a idiot again?

Usually when he talkes, its like he dosent know what to say. He's always like 'uhhh' or 'ummm' or has a big break between words. If you didnt notice, he didnt seem to have that problem during the last debate. I think someone was telling him what to say.

I may just be some 15 year old kid, but I know what's going on with the election and the war. Personally, if i had to vote, I would sit in jail before voting for Bush.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

hey
this is ridiculous and the mere fact that you (by "you" i obviosuly mean whoover started this crap site) have the time to start a website based on this just says to the world that you're a loser :) find something productive to do
and hey remember when president's wore bullet-proof vests so that they wouldn't die if shot........that's obviously what the damn "bulge" is...it's called common sense you should buy some
why are you so anti-bush anyway could it be that you're just another loser-poser following the oh so cool trend of being liberal just for the sake of the label and have no idea what bush is all about because you're brain-washed by what is "cool"
ugh get over yourself
jen-yale '08

3:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

There is no way Bush was not wearing body armor. First, everyone and their mother was screened before entering the theatre to watch the first debate. Second, there was that 30 some-odd page contract that Bush and Kerry signed. If Bush was wearing body armor, he would've been sweating his ass off and would have wanted a lower temperature in the theatre as was written in the contract.

3:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

While watching the debate, I noticed that Bush looked like he had hair in his ears, and I thought that it was strange because he would of been better groomed than that, so I thought it might of been a shadow, I looked at Kerry and I did'nt see that, maybe it was not shaved off to conseal an earpiece?

3:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

I tried to make my own suit jackets pucker like that. They won't do it. But my suits aren't tailor-made. Can anyone who knows something about expensive suits address de Paris' explanation?

3:55 PM  
Anonymous said...

"why are you so anti-bush anyway could it be that you're just another loser-poser following the oh so cool trend of being liberal just for the sake of the label and have no idea what bush is all about because you're brain-washed by what is "cool"
ugh get over yourself"

That's BS! I go to a private christian school and everyone in my class is a republican. When I told people, including my history teacher, they just laugh at me and call me a loser. So why would i be anti-bush to be cool?

Personally i think the christians that vote for bush do so just because they're brain washed by churches and because bush says he's a christian man, prays, is against gay marriage, and against abortion. That's all important, but i think the economy and the war is more important.

3:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

Maybe the guy on the other end of earpiece should run for president instead of the puppet!

4:03 PM  
Bill O'Reilly said...

Shaaddup! Just Shaaddup!

4:08 PM  
Anonymous said...

George Bush, by all accounts perfomred poorly during the first debate, for anyone to seriously consider that he was wired and being prompted is completly stupid.

It is bad enough that you denouce Bush for "lying" about Iraq, when both Clinton and the Democratic leadership thought that there were WMD in Iraq. All those who are criticizing Bush for going into Iraq and not finding WMD (who forget the mass graves and the crimes against humanity that the Butcher of Baghadad is guilty of)would be the first ones to call for his impeachment if he had done nothing and terrorist with WMD supplied by Saddam had attacked us.

The icing on the cake is the moronic woman who thinks Bush can't read. He was a successful business man prior to being govenor of Texas and President.

To pathetic Dan who wants us all to call the media to have them go after this story, GET REAL. If the meida smelled blood in the water, if there was a real story behind this, they wouldn't need bone heads like Dan to tell them to go after the story.

If you people want to attack Bush do so on his record

4:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

Bozo's:
First to the "person" who does television in the UK and recognizes familiar eye movements, you are a Deer in the Headlights and must just SUCK! I am in televison too, and we wear plenty of communication devices through which people can convey messages, and NONE of them are mounted between the shoulder blades. Just be logical. Why would such a mystery device be mounted there? So it could plug into the cable surgically implanted in the president's spine? People, I suggest you follow Ted Kazinski's lead and come out of your cabins. Return to reality. As an earlier poster mention, these types of communcation devices are always in the small of the back, where they aren't seen. For example, mounted on the belt in back. Folks, get a clue! I mean really. Instead of being so weird, just vote in November and then shut up. Wait, if the election doesn't go your way, there will surely have some massive conspiracy. I hope Oliver Stone is ready.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous said...

Notice how many flaming Republican posts have started appearing - each using words like "moronic", "bonehead", "loser" etc.?

They all sound like they're being written by the same person.

My guess is that the Bush campaign has tapped some intern with the task of loading up this site with dissention.

Nice job intern - if you do a good job, maybe they'll give you a promotion to a real staff position!

4:35 PM  
Anonymous said...

posts claiming that if bush was wired he would have done a better job of it; i.e. it would have been more inconspicuous, some tiny 007 device created by the cia that is dramatically smaller than the super-expensive spyware stuff available in the private sector... i remain skeptical. r&d has never been the cia's strong suit. basically they just buy the technology from private companies and then slap a legal restrainer on it like 'can be purchased for gov or law enforcement only' or 'not for export' etc.

it is most likely that if bush wanted to do this they would just buy the best one available commercially from a private company. after all, they don't care what it costs and there's no paper trail if they don't have to develop it in-house

and when was the last time you bought a laptop designed by the government?

and a device like that would be great if you wanted to put your candidate up in front of the press corps for an hour without notes and and field complex questions because there isn't a 2 min time limit and it allows him the appearance of knowing peoples names, understanding relevant issues...apparently it's not great if you have a debate yoda like john kerry who can argue circles around bush in real time without a crew of handlers trying to script a response and transmit it. and john kerry already knows how to pronounce all the words he plans on using.

4:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

Personally, I don't care what is inside Bush's ear or jacket, what really worries and frightens me is what is inside his head!! I'm hoping and praying that you Americans are aware of what to do with this men (GET RID OF HIM!!), not only for your sake, but for the world's sake. IT IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG AND THAT LESS THAN 50% OF AMERICANS VOTERS ARE RIGHT!! Congratulations for the initiative! Regards to all, Daniel (Recife/Brasil)

4:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

I HATE YOU ALL

4:44 PM  
Anonymous said...

anonymous said
"I HATE YOU ALL"

is that the veep?

I thought you loved us, Cheney. Particularly our supple young organs.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

If you go to this site http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm you can watch the debate. Play the clip where Bush talks about the draft, 5:46 into the clip you can see the wire its under his tie.

4:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

IGNORANT PEOPLE!
For crying out loud, dont you think we have better technology than this bumpy crap!!!!
SS

P.S. "If anything" the wires are under the skin!
Sleep well morons.

4:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

I am no Bush fan but I am not willing to swallow this one guys. Who would fit a 'hidden' device to the protruding round of a mans back? Spend your time doing something more constructive like jerking off.

4:59 PM  
Said said...

Is it me or does "the bulge" from the first debate resemble the Gilette Mach 3 razor complete with the storage case?

5:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

Its called a backbone. If you look on Kerry's back you'll see a yellow stripe!

5:15 PM  
Anonymous said...

Who really cares, big freakin deal for what ever he has or does not have. This web site is just for those who have nothing better to do. As i see it this probably wont make it to print anyhow. so that makes this web site for Democrats. With all the troubles in the world today, it amazes me how something as stupid and unconfirmed can draw so much attention.

5:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

Go to this site http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm bring up the debate its broken down into clips play the one about the draft, 1:50 into you can see the wire its under his tie and he exposes it briefly.

5:25 PM  
Anonymous said...

Look at Bush at the end of the first debate, when he is greeting his family. He looks considerably thinner at the waist than he looks during the second debate. The transmitter was definitely at his waist. The wire that others have reported seeing in the 2nd debate is clearly visible. It seems to come right from the transmitter at his waist.

Why wouldn't anyone believe that the Great Deceiver would stoop to such hideous tactics? There is nothing in his background or track record to indicate he wouldn't. If he can deceive us into a war, wearing a transmitter is child's play. Wake up Republicans. This man is a war criminal perpetuating the greatest hoax the world has ever seen. What would it take to get you to see what this man is made of?

5:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

If there is a story here, I hope it is truthfully exposed. I am more concerned about the issues brought up at the last debate. The health care issue is certainly important. Kerry talked about health care, and it sounded plausible, the president said he didn't want the Federal government running "his" health care. Bush said he had a better plan that didn't involve the federal government. Where is it? He had four years to have a plan and had congress on his side. The issues are important and people need to listen. I am sure the president is receiving his cues from an electronic source. His is dyslexic and can't read well, if at all. He should just come out and tell us how hanicapped he is.

5:35 PM  
Max said...

Who cares if Bush was wired? I thought being "wired" 24/7 was one of those perks of being president. It doesnt mean anything important. So what if he was getting help with the debate. I honestly doubt that there would have been any controversy if he just decided to use notes prepared by someone else. ITS THE SAME THING! Leave it alone.

5:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

It is not funny if it is true. Will the candidates pass through a bug detector before next debate?

6:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

The bulge in the jacket is only one piece of strong evidence among many others. On CNN and Fox News in France on D-Day, another man's voice could be heard reading Bush's speech only seconds before the president: the deeper-voiced male voice would state a phrase, then the president would repeat it. Many others like myself saw this in June and were agog...I'm relieved to see from earlier postings that others also witnessed this bizarre live scenario. This is not the first time that audio prompts have been broadcast.

Bush speaks like someone being prompted: he stops and starts at awkward moments, his shifting eyes from side to side, and mispronunciations are pocked with strange statements like "commiserate...not commiserate..." as if accidentally repeating a correction, or "Say something about the tax code, say something about the tax code" as if accidentally repeating a command. His sudden improvements in syntax, vocabulary, and sentence coherency also support the theory that he is being prompted.

Several have posed the question, "If Bush is wired, why did he bomb during the first debate?" The question avoids the fact that Bush's poor performance during that first debate is what truly aroused suspicion. He had the appearance of someone whose IFB had been disrupted. About 30 minutes into the debate he became flustered and frightened, repeating several lines again and again. "ya can't say its wrong war, wrong time"

I worked with reporters for years, and there's nothing I dreaded more than that frightened look of someone working without a script or an IFB and they're on live television and aren't sure what to do.

I came to the conclusion that Bush was wired after the first debate, recalling the June incident as well. I won't pretend to have answers about the bulge in his jacket, but I loved the links in other postings. Transmission would have to cover a great distance, and be secure to avoid disruption or sabotage. I have a feeling that some savvy folks did just that during the first press conference.

I believe nay-sayers are avoiding the real evidence. Try de-legimitizing this theory by tossing around labels like "conspiracy theory," "tin foil head," etc. Yes, we have deadly serious issues in this campaign that posters are well-informed about, no doubt....Lying about the reason for invading a country that had nothing do with 9/11 in order to profit from war...destroying the environment and rolling back the Clean Air Act...the first president with a net loss of jobs since Herbert Hoover. There are other sites with heated discussions on these vital issues.

Mounting evidence supports the idea that our president is literally a puppet. Too much evidence suggests he is receiving audio prompts during debates and press conferences.

So who are you really voting for if you vote for Bush?

6:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

What is more pathetic? Bush's first debate performance not wired, or that his handlers did not have enough faith that he could think on his feet. The result was the same. The man can not think on his feet. Or, he cannot think, period. Osama is still at large, Sadam (we controlled his airspace and inspectors were in his country) was not a threat. Anyone who still believes Sadam had anything to do with 9/11 should apply for a post in Bush's second adminstration (if the country is unfortunate enough). Bush needs more lockstep morons - Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld will be gone

6:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

Who give a sh** if Bush was wired? You have a website devoted to this? Get a life.

6:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

Bush a successful business man????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Who's the comedian who wrote that? The man failed time and again in business and had to be bailed out by his daddy's rich friends. Do your freakin' homework, bonehead before you make us all spew our beverages out our noses laughing over your imbecilic platitudes.

6:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

just See! Bush Wired!

6:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

If Bush used an ear-piece for a speach (like State of the Union or D-Day), who cares? It's like a tele-prompter.

If he uses it during a Q and A session, that get's a little iffy. I think Americans expect that our President should be able to answer questions for himself. I think most people would be disturbed if it turned out he couldn't.

If he uses it during a debate it's akin to cheating and he should immediately resign.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous said...

I don't know if Bush was wired or not. I am an Australian, and we didn't see the debate in any depth here, but I know one thing; he needs to be wired. He is an inarticulate, insincere, dangerous little man who needs to go!

6:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

You can't be serious. First, it's non-issue. Second, anyone with an hours experience in Adobe Photoshop can put a bulge on George's back. It is a simple matter, which would only take a few seconds.

What you liberals just don't understand, is that what you work for and earn is yours, and what you don't work for is not yours. Why should you expect somebody else to work half of the year to pay for your government programs? You only expect yourself to work for three months to pay your tax bill.

Do you think that John Kerry pays his fair share? His rich, let's look out for the folks tax bill? I say this because he doesn't. In order to evade his tax responsibility he formed a subchapter s corporation with himself as the sole shareholder, and director. As director he has elected to pay himself 300-odd thousand dollars. This may seem like a lot to you, but to Kerry, I assure you it is not. The rest of the millions he earned he merely took as capital gains, at a much lower tax rate. The point is that it is not the extremely wealthy that look after you - the famed top 1%. It is the people that go to work in the dark in the morning and come home in the dark. Pouring their life and thier sole into their job, or perhaps their own business that the grew from nothing. And at the end of the year, yes perhaps they have $150,000 but you know what - they worked harder than you, they took on more risk than you did, and they deserve it.

The other thing is that if you would pull your head out of your *** you would realize that for all intensive puposes BUSH IS YOUR DREAM DEMOCRAT. He expanded Medicare beyond all reason. The reality of the world is that he expanded social programs in this country in an unprecedented rate. The only way in which he is actually a Republican is that he
1. Doesn't Like to Kill Babies
2. Protected you by invading Iraq
-This is true even if you don't think it is.
3. The tax cuts, which benefited everybody (Don't you remember that?)

Get outta here with your bogus story, LOSERS
-dustindufault@yahoo.com

7:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

What's the range/frequency of these devices? Are they encrypted?

Can't we sit outside the final debat and try to feed Shrub the wrong answers?

Well, he already has the wrong answers, but we could make him even stupider. Difficult, but not impossible.

7:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

I believe he was wired. I had noticed a rectangle outline on the back of his suit, but had not really thought about it until it was pointed out by others.
It does explain how that idiot could be holding coherent conversations--he's been getting instant feedback from others. It also explains why the Republicans stipulated no rear photo opportunities.

The question is what the Dems are going to do about it. They should demand that he be searched prior to the debate.

7:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

What? Expect the major media to investigate this Bush being Wired thing seriously?

Think about it... Tim Russert KNEW that Dick Cheney lied when the VP said at the VP debate with Edwards that "...I hadn't met you until tonight..."

Russert KNEW this was a false statement. And, yet, on the coverage immediately following the debate on MSNBC, Russert said NOTHING about it.

Clearly, Russert and a whole slew of others are on their knees before Bush and Company while they project the air of impartiality.

And these are the folks who will take this important Bush Wired story to the next level?

Never.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous said...

Hey what happened to my comments from yesterday?

On September 2, 2004, in New York City, President George W. Bush accepted the Republican nomination for President. In his address, he promised to build on the accomplishments of his first term by building a safer world and more hopeful America for our workers, families, and children. Over the next four years, President Bush will create new opportunities for American workers. He will help every family adjust to the challenges of a changing world. He will make it easier for every American to have a personal stake in the American dream and to take personal ownership of America’s economic prosperity. Americans can count on President Bush to strengthen our communities, stand by our families and share our values. And President Bush will continue to build a path to security by pressing for reform of the intelligence community and the transformation of our military to meet the threats of the 21st century.

7:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

On September 2, 2004, in New York City, President George W. Bush accepted the Republican nomination for President. In his address, he promised to build on the accomplishments of his first term by building a safer world and more hopeful America for our workers, families, and children. Over the next four years, President Bush will create new opportunities for American workers. He will help every family adjust to the challenges of a changing world. He will make it easier for every American to have a personal stake in the American dream and to take personal ownership of America’s economic prosperity. Americans can count on President Bush to strengthen our communities, stand by our families and share our values. And President Bush will continue to build a path to security by pressing for reform of the intelligence community and the transformation of our military to meet the threats of the 21st century.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

A Plan for Creating Opportunity for America's Workers

"The role of Government is not to create wealth; the role of our Government is to create an environment in which the entrepreneur can flourish, in which minds can expand, in which technologies can reach new frontiers."

-President George W. Bush

Three years. Three tax cuts. An economic recovery—American ingenuity—unleashed. At a critical moment in the Nation's economic history, while a recession was taking hold, America was attacked, and corporate fraud was exposed. In response to these challenges, the President acted decisively to strengthen the economy and create jobs. The President's leadership resulted in Congress returning taxpayer money to the families, entrepreneurs, innovators, and investors who earned it.

In his second term, President Bush will focus on building a more prosperous, competitive economy that will continue to be a strong engine for jobs and prosperity for years to come. The essential elements of his plan include: taking the next bold steps in reforming education; building a skilled and effective workforce; encouraging a pro-growth, fair, and simpler tax system; promoting research and development in both the public and private sectors; opening markets for American goods around the globe; meeting our energy needs and lessening our energy dependence; reducing the regulatory burden; and reforming Government to be smaller and more efficient, responsive, and effective. President Bush is committed to making sure America has the best prepared, best educated, and highest skilled workforce in the world.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

BUILDING A HIGHLY SKILLED WORKFORCE

A Bold New Direction in Education Reform

President Bush believes that education is the key to opportunity and America's best tool in an increasingly competitive global economy. This means that every child deserves a world-class education and every worker deserves the support of a Government that makes a lifetime of learning a top priority.

Implementing No Child Left Behind

Three days after taking office, President Bush submitted as his first legislative proposal the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB). Less than a year later, a bipartisan coalition in Congress passed the most comprehensive restructuring of K-12 education since 1965 - and the first education bill to demand results for every child.

Since President Bush signed NCLB into law, every state has developed a specific plan to ensure that its schools improve. We are already seeing hopeful results. Fourth graders in urban schools are showing strong gains in both reading and math. And from Georgia, North Carolina, and Maryland, to Illinois, Wisconsin, and New Mexico, minority children are showing improved test scores and they are narrowing the achievement gap. President Bush will continue to demand accountability so that every student is proficient in reading and math by 2014, as promised by NCLB.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

Ensuring Early Childhood Development for a Successful Start

Early childhood development is one of the best investments America can make to ensure that children are successful in school and later in life. Studies show that vocabulary, letter knowledge, and phonological awareness, in addition to social and emotional factors, have a significant impact on later success in school. Whether in pre-school or at home with parents or other caregivers, every young child should have the opportunity to develop the skills they need to succeed in school.

President Bush is continuing his efforts to improve early childhood education through the Healthy Start, Grow Smart program, including his proposal to strengthen Head Start. The President will:


Strengthen Head Start - Focus Head Start more clearly on school readiness, and allow states to integrate Head Start programs into their existing pre-school preparedness efforts in order to make better use of combined Federal and state resources. The President will give priority consideration for funding to states that have a coordinated early childhood plan involving Head Start, pre-K, and child care services.
Promote Literacy - Train parents in early literacy through Head Start.
Continue to Fund Research - President Bush will fund development of the most effective curricula and programs for teaching children early literacy and math skills; establish developmentally appropriate measurements; and identify effective adult and family literacy programs.
Expand the Reach Out and Read Program - Expand Reach Out and Read, which seeks to make early literacy a standard part of pediatric primary care.
Expand Healthy Start, Grow Smart - Continue and expand distribution of Healthy Start, Grow Smart booklets to provide parents the information they need to enhance their children's early development.
Engage Faith and Community-Based Organizations - Help provide parents with the skills they need to advance their children's healthy development.
Increase Minority Outreach - Increase outreach efforts to minority families to better disseminate effective early childhood development strategies.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

Improving America's High Schools

The No Child Left Behind Act demands accountability in exchange for the record levels of Federal spending now going to K-12 public education, an increase of 49 percent since 2001. These reforms are already beginning to show strong results, but President Bush also wants to take the next steps to ensure that all high school students are better prepared to enter higher education or the workforce. In his second term, President Bush will:


Make Sure a Diploma Means Something

Improve High School Assessments - President Bush proposes extending state assessments in grades three through eleven in reading and math. More than $250 million in annual funding will be provided to help states design and administer these assessments, which would require states to add two tests in high school over the next several years.
Require Twelfth Grade NAEP - The President's plan includes 12th graders in the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).

Help Students Succeed

Support Early Intervention - President Bush proposed the establishment of a $200 million fund for states to encourage schools, with the input of parents, to use 8th grade test data to develop performance plans for entering high school students and to use assessments to monitor progress.
Expand Funding for the Striving Readers Initiative - President Bush proposes to increase funding to $200 million annually for his Striving Readers initiative for high school students who have fallen behind in reading.
Expand the Mathematics and Science Partnership - The President will increase funding to $269 million for a partnership to improve high school math achievement by providing professional development for teachers.
Improve Advanced Placement - The President's 2005 budget provides a $28 million increase, bringing total spending for advanced placement courses for low-income students to nearly $52 million.
Encourage Students to Take More Rigorous Courses - By expanding the State Scholars program, the business community and educators can partner to encourage students to take rigorous classes to prepare them to succeed in college or the workplace.
Strengthen and Modernize Vocational Education - The President's proposal directs $1 billion in annual funding from the Perkins Vocational Education program into a new Secondary and Technical Education program to ensure participating schools offer four years of English, three years of math and science, and three-and-a-half years of social studies as part of their vocational education curriculum.

7:41 PM  
Anonymous said...

Promote High-Quality Teaching

Provide Extra Incentives for Teachers - President Bush will provide an incentive fund for states and schools to reward effective teachers when students achieve a higher level of results.
Expand Loan Forgiveness for Teachers - President Bush would increase loan forgiveness from $5,000 to $17,500 for highly qualified math, science, and special education teachers who serve low-income communities.
Promote the Adjunct Teacher Corps - The $40 million Adjunct Teacher Corps initiative will bring experienced professionals into the classroom and allow them to teach one or more courses while on leave from their jobs, or teach online courses.

Strengthening Post-Secondary Education

President Bush is committed to expanding access to higher education and training for all Americans. To accomplish this, President Bush will:

Increase Student Financial Aid to Help More Students Afford College - More than 10.3 million students will be able to afford college through President Bush's record $73 billion in financial aid assistance - an increase of $25.9 billion, or 55 percent, over 2001. The President's plan will provide a record $12.9 billion investment in Pell Grants, a 47 percent increase over 2001, to help an additional one million students afford college.
Offer an Enhanced Pell Grant - The President will allow low-income students who take the rigorous high school curriculum required by the State Scholars program to receive up to $1,000 in additional Pell Grant funding, bringing the total maximum award up to $5,050.
Increase AmeriCorps Education Awards - The President is increasing to 75,000 the number of AmeriCorps members. Full-time members will receive an education award of $4,725 to pay for college or graduate school.
Reform Student Loans to Better Serve Students - The President will increase loan limits for first-year students from $2,625 to $3,000 and allow low-default schools more flexibility in loan disbursements.
Encourage Dual Enrollment - President Bush would provide $125 million in grants to serve as an incentive for community colleges to provide dual enrollment programs, which allow high school students to earn college credit and graduate in less time. In addition, he will provide incentives for states to make it easier for students to transfer credits earned at community colleges to four-year institutions.

Providing Opportunities for Life-Long Learning and Job Training

The President believes that workers need educational opportunities throughout their lives to ensure that they remain competitive in the workplace. In his second term, the President will:

Reform Federal Job-Training Programs to Double the Number of Workers Trained
The President will invest $250 million annually for Community-Based Job Training Grants to strengthen the role of community colleges in workforce development.
The President will provide more workers with Innovation Training Accounts, flexible accounts that which allow workers to choose the training that best serves their needs.
President Bush will reduce Federal red tape to save an estimated $300 million and give governors more flexibility in distributing training funds.
Eliminate Restrictions That Prevent Adult or Part-Time Students From Receiving Federal Student Aid - The President's proposal makes financial aid more flexible and effective in helping these non-traditional students acquire necessary skills. The proposal eliminates restrictions through:
Short-Term Training - Allows student loans to be used for short-term training, especially for dislocated workers and older Americans who need retraining.
Student Aid to be Used for Competency-Based Programs and Traditional Credit Hour Programs - Competency-based programs assess skill levels and provide students with degrees or certifications, including teaching certifications.
Year-Round Pell Grants for Low-Income Students - The President proposed providing an additional $84 million for year-round Pell Grants for students who graduate early. In the current system, students are allowed to receive only one Pell Grant during a traditional school year.
Eliminating Barriers to Distance Learning and Developing an eLearning Clearinghouse -The President's proposals enable greater access to web-based programs and virtual schools and expand the number of students who can be enrolled in distance education to help those in underserved areas.
Improving Adult Literacy - The President proposed developing a comprehensive web-based literacy tool for adults aimed at increasing adult literacy across the U.S.
Providing Workers with Additional Flexibility for Selecting Services to Help Them Return to Work - Under the President's Personal Reemployment Accounts pilot program, certain unemployed workers would be eligible to receive up to $3,000 that could be used for training and services, such as child care and transportation, that they believe will help them get back to work. As an incentive, the program would allow the recipients to keep the balance of the account as a cash bonus if they find a job within 13 weeks.


FOSTERING ECONOMIC PROSPERITY

A highly-skilled, highly-educated workforce needs a growing, competitive economy to provide the highpaying jobs they deserve. In his second term, President Bush will continue working to create a fertile environment for American businesses, lowering costs and regulatory burdens, and making America the best place in the world to do business.


Keeping Taxes Low and Reforming the System

In 2000, George W. Bush ran for President on a promise of lowering taxes, allowing the American people to keep more of what they earn. President Bush believes that our economy grows when families and businesses have more of their own money to spend and invest.


President Bush has delivered on his promise, passing three major tax cuts. As a result, 111 million Americans will see lower taxes: a typical family of four earning $40,000 a year will receive more than $1,900 in tax relief this year.


The tax relief helped spur a strong economic recovery, despite the recession inherited by President Bush, the impact on the economy of the terrorist attacks, and revelations of corporate fraud. Since last August, the economy has produced almost 1.5 million new jobs and spurred some of the fastest economic growth in two decades.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

FACE THE TRUTH - > BUSH IS WIRED

7:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Thursday, October 07, 2004
THE RAW DEAL: Kerry's Lack Of Principle On Iraq

"John Kerry today offered another example that proves he is a candidate with no principles beyond the political need of the moment. John Kerry talked for years about the threat of Saddam Hussein's weapons programs. He said that inspections would only be a 'game,' and he voted to authorize force to remove Saddam Hussein. Today he took the opposite position, saying that Saddam Hussein was contained, despite findings to the contrary from the Duelfer report which concluded sanctions were weakening and that Saddam Hussein intended to reconstitute his weapons programs."

7:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Kerry: "I Have Always Said We May Yet Even Find Weapons Of Mass Destruction. I Don't Know The Answer To That." (Fox News' "Fox News Sunday," 12/14/03)

Kerry On Saddam's History Of Miscalculation: "And Now He Is Miscalculating America's Response To His Continued Deceit And His Consistent Grasp For Weapons Of Mass Destruction." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Georgetown University, 1/23/03)

Kerry Wanted To Show World U.S. Ready To Act To Take Away Saddam's "Deadly Arsenal." "'By standing with the president, Congress will demonstrate that our nation is united in its determination to take away Saddam Hussein's deadly arsenal, by peaceful means if we can, by force if we must,' Kerry said." (Nick Anderson And Richard Simon, "Debate On Iraq," Los Angeles Times, 10/10/02)

On Eve Of War, Kerry Said Saddam Hussein's WMD Are Threat. KERRY: "I think Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction are a threat, and that's why I voted to hold him accountable and to make certain that we disarm him. I think we need to …" (NPR's "All Things Considered," 3/19/03)

Kerry Said Saddam Chose "To Make Military Force The Ultimate Weapons Inspections Enforcement Mechanism." (Glen Johnson, "Critics Of Bush Voice Support For The Troops," The Boston Globe, 3/20/03)

Kerry Said "Threat Of Saddam Hussein With Weapons Of Mass Destruction Is Real." "The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171)

7:44 PM  
Anonymous said...

Kerry's Claim: President Bush’s proposed medical malpractice reforms benefit insurance companies instead of patients.

The Truth: Kerry is misleading Americans about the medical liability lawsuits that are costing Americans as much as $108 billion each year. Even Kerry’s running mate acknowledges that our nation faces a serious medical liability crisis.

7:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

To "Anonymous" who posted his long and thoughtful analysis at 6:03 PM today ("the bulge in the jacket is only one piece of strong evidence"): thank you. Amid the welter of subway-graffiti level postings that have piled up on this blog, yours seems the most level-headed and balanced. I, too, worry that we have a President who isn't what he seems, a kind of real-life Manchurian candidate. What was once low grade political fiction may now actually be true.

I am not a Bush supporter; I hope he loses the election. But more than that, I hope that if he wins, that he WASN'T wearing a wire, and that his answers in the first debate -- however wrongheaded -- were his own.

7:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

“John Kerry has a troubling record on the issues that Floridians care about most, and he owes Floridians an honest explanation for why he voted to send our troops to Iraq, then voted against funding them, and now says they are fighting the ‘wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time.’ While in Florida, John Kerry should also spend some time explaining his 19-year record of voting to raise Medicare premiums, voting to raise taxes on Florida’s working families and voting to prohibit Medicare from negotiating the price of drugs. Problem is, with a record as troubling and out-of-the-mainstream as his, with 23 days to go, John Kerry has a lot of explaining to do.”

7:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

Statement by State Representative Leah Vukmir

MILWAUKEE, WI – State Representative Leah Vukmir today issued the following statement:

"John Kerry and John Edwards are trailing President Bush in Wisconsin because voters here know their job-killing tax hikes would devastate a growing economy that has added more than 44,000 new jobs over the past year. Kerry and Edwards are more than happy to make empty promises to our state's voters, but reluctant to tell us the truth that Wisconsin's working families, seniors and small businesses would pay the price for their $1.5 trillion government-run health care program.

"If issues important to women really mattered to John Kerry, he wouldn't have voted against medical liability reform ten times and wouldn't have picked a personal injury trial lawyer as his running mate. Frivolous medical liability lawsuits are costing our economy as much as $108 billion each year, and Wisconsinites aren't going to trust candidates who care more about helping personal injury trial lawyers than they do about helping us."

7:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

What They're Saying: St. Louis Debate, Volume Eight


Roll Call's Mort Kondracke: "Now, When The -- All Of The Analysis Goes On, I Think, There's Going To -- There Are Going To Be A Lot Of Questions Raised About What Kerry Said. The Idea That He's For Tort Reform? Please. He's -- You Know, He Is A Follower Of The Trial Lawyer Lobby All The Way Down The Line. The Idea That General Shinseki Was Fired, That's Wrong, And There Were Other Things That Were Wrong In What Kerry Said." (Fox News' "Special Coverage," 10/8/04)

CNBC's Gloria Borger: Kerry "Was Sort Of Twisted In A Pretzel Yet Again Trying To Explain His Views On Abortion." (NBC's "Saturday Today," 10/9/04)

The Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes: "Bush Looked Comfortable" And "Put Kerry On The Defensive Several Times." (Fred Barnes, "If At First You Don't Succeed…," The Weekly Standard, 10/18/04)

The New York Times' Todd Purdum: President Bush "Gain[ed] Comfort As The Encounter Wore On, Sounding Considerably More Confident And Collected." (Todd S. Purdum, "Best Defense: More Offense," The New York Times, 10/9/04)

Boston Globe's Peter S. Canellos: Kerry "Was Less Crisp." (Peter S. Canellos, "After First-Debate Stumbles, President Regains Footing," Boston Globe, 10/9/04)

Rocky Mountain News: "The President Succeeded In Putting The Ongoing War In A Broader Context: Iraq, He Said, Is Part Of A Global Security Strategy That, Beyond Pre-Empting Terror At Its Source, Envisions The Spread Of Freedom As An Antidote To Hatred And Tyranny." (Editorial, "Bush Regains Ground In 2nd Round," Rocky Mountain News, 10/9/04)

Rocky Mountain News: "Likewise On Iran, Kerry Fumbled A Chance To Explain What He Would Do Differently From Bush To Deter That Nation From Developing Nuclear Weapons." (Editorial, "Bush Regains Ground In 2nd Round," Rocky Mountain News, 10/9/04)

7:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

If you are not an American, your opinion really doesn't mean squat on this subject. We have still not sold out our sovereignty to the EU or UN.

7:51 PM  
Anonymous said...

Anyone have any thoughts on why GW is so weirdly hunched over during the first debate? Another thing I noticed about his body language during the 2nd debate. When Kerry approaches to address Bush directly, Bush seems to hunch and shrink back, as if he were afraid.

7:59 PM  
Anonymous said...

The box on his back is no pucker so the White House is lying...again...like Rice saying they "never dreamed" terrorists would turn a plane into a missile even though on 9/11 a practice drill/mass-casualty exercise was being wargamed with that precise scenario...Google "Vigilant Guardian" and "Bush-knew 9/11"...9/11 was Bush's "Reichstag Fire."

Found lies indicate greater evil.

Draft-dodger Bush is a stone-cold moron whose father killed JFK and whose grandfather was Hitler's early money on behalf of Vatican-banker Rockefeller and Rome's "Black Aristocracy."

viz: www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm and he "can't recall" his whereabouts upon hearing of JFK's murder???;

Google "Prescott Thyssen Auschwitz"

Then use your brain and spread the word.

Karl Rove in Bush's debate ear is pathetic, shedding innocent blood and destroying Our Republic is plain evil.

8:05 PM  
Max said...

I honestly hope Bush wins the elections. I may not be old enough to vote, but I do have an opinion. People who question the presidents intelligence should probably consider their own situation. At least Bush was smart enough to become president. As I understand it, morons don’t often get the opportunities to become president. A lot of people criticize the way Bush handled the war. People will say that Bush was only trying to finish what his father started. That may be the case, but I honestly cant say I blame him. There was definitely some kind of threat coming from areas like that. Bush was only trying to protect America from any more acts of terrorism. Even if it was a mistake because no weapons were found in Iraq, the war may have prevented a terrorist attack that could have happened later. I don’t think too many people enjoyed the 9/11 terrorist attack. Doesn’t it seem reasonable to take action in trying to stop it from happening again?

8:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

"Draft-dodger Bush is a stone-cold moron whose father killed JFK and whose grandfather was Hitler's early money on behalf of Vatican-banker Rockefeller and Rome's "Black Aristocracy.""

Wow, lie big and some idiot will believe you. Not me thought, my sanity is still here and working for me, thanks!

8:15 PM  
Anonymous said...

*Yawn*

Copy/paste more from the Bush Campaign website, why don't you?

He obviously committed election fraud in 2000, and his buddies in the Electoral College made sure he got in. He and his people knowingly lied about Iraq's threat to the US, blatantly ignoring (http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak27.html#) intelligence reports warning him about the outcome. Saddam's incarceration and Iraq's freedom, albeit in exchange for being carpet-bombed by the US Air Force every weekend, are happy accidents...by-products of a war based on a lie.

Maybe Bush was wired, maybe he wasn't. I don't know, and I'm not going to venture an opinion on the matter. But look at the track record of the past four years. Look at the freaking Patriot Act, and the Orwellian powers it gives law enforcement over citizens. Look at the color-coded terror alert system, which does nothing to keep Americans informed and everything to keep them scared. Look at Bush giving the finger to the United Nations, International Criminal Court, and the world in general by taking America on an arrogant 'go-it-alone' policy that's really hurting right about now. This is a man who says, point blank, that he is hand-picked by God to run the country.

America does not live in a bubble. Making compromises, and making friends abroad, is not a popularity contest. Pandering to right-wing zealots is a popularity contest. At least Kerry has the guts to run a non-denominational government in the face of Jimmy Falwell's America. I'm just sorry for anybody in the US right now who's visibly Middle Eastern, and/or not a Christian right about now.

8:15 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/
Michael Moore has now picked up the story....

8:16 PM  
Anonymous said...

Micheal Moore is an idiot.

8:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

THE PATRIOT ACT REQUIRES A COURT ORDER TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT ON YOUR PRIVACY. Every person who is not participating in objectionable activities would be safe from government interference. ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PATRIOT ACT HAS BEEN USED TO SHUT DOWN TERRORIST CELLS IN THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING ONE NEAR MY HOME TOWN AT A NUCLEAR SUB-BASE?!?!

8:21 PM  
Anonymous said...

Yeah, like the President would have to have some $29.99 Radio Shack Remote Control box stuck on his back...how about a wireless remote earpiece set further down in the ear?...You fucking morons...keep coming up with shit like this....We love this. Did you hear the latest...We conservatives have proof that Kerry's a dick www.Kerryisadickhead.com

8:22 PM  
Anonymous said...

Here are some pictures of a bulge in dedbate 2. I watched on MSNBC and this is about at the 50 minute mark

http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/1.jpg
http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/2.jpg
http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/3.jpg

Most of the time I could only see the wire running up his left shoulder, but when he turned this once, you could see this. I also think that whatever it is was somewhere on his front left this time about waist level

8:22 PM  
Anonymous said...

Michael Moore is a high school drop out. Why do you think so many liberals listen to him?

8:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

The way you have these images modified, I can tell were you didn't vary the color enough. The supposed "box" looks huge and unrealistic. You can't really be serious... any of you..... are you?

8:25 PM  
Anonymous said...

How is working with the UN "selling out your sovereignty"? The United Nations isn't great, but at least it's an attempt to work together as one world. There are all manner of countries on this planet, not just the US. We have to live on the same planet here, why the f**k is it so bad to try and work together? Or is it really better to give the world the finger and plough ahead, and not think about anybody but yourselves? People don't want to do anything for the rest of the world because they don't see the rest of the world doing anything for them back...have you ever considered that it's America's rank arrogance on the world stage that fuels its unpopularity? You ever think that, maybe instead of acting like a spoiled brat of a country, you tried working together WITH the rest of the world that the rest of the world will respect that attitude and work together back? There will always be some asses who thumb their noses, of course. Don't even get me started on France.../nobody/ likes France, believe me...but walking away from the group effort, denying your connected to the world and your impact ON the world is the height of stupidity. It sucks how those lessons we all learn as children, that co-operation (or at least ATTEMPTED co-operation) is better than beating people up and mouthing people off, get lost on everybody once they grow up.

And last word, what kind of terrible argument is to say that attacking Iraq "might have prevented a future attack"? Are you going to wage a war against every potential threat? Maybe something might come out of Canada in twenty years. Should you attack Canada? China might be a powerful enemy in the future. Attack China tomorrow, maybe? Pre-emptive war carries with it the cost of guess-work. Attacking somebody who 'might' be an enemy in the future is irresponsible. Peoples' lives are on the line. Thousands upon thousands of Iraqi civilians, guilty of nothing, died at the end of American weapons because the country "might" have posed some threat. Peoples' lives are not worth taking for a 'maybe'. Be sure, be DAMNED sure, before you take that kind of action. Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Bush and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ridge...all said that they had solid, undeniable evidence that there were WMDs in Iraq. Now that we know there aren't, how can those statements not strike anybody as incredibly irresponsible? They /guaranteed/ that the cost of the war was worth the risk. They can't backtrack and say "sorry, we were wrong, but it's okay". They effectively gave their word, and now that word has been shown to be worthless. Just remember that.

8:33 PM  
Jim Mall said...

In its September 30th issue, "The Argumentative Dick Times", the Dick Times, News that Bites! requested of its recipients that they note the number of times George W. Bush looked off stage for "a clue" during the debate. He did not so look for a clue, as our staff watched carefully on widescreen high definition TV.
Instead, what we all saw in several from- the -back shots on C Span was clearly and quite obviously a rigid three dimensional geometric form under the center seam of the Bush suitcoat. It appeared to be a box about eight inches long, five inches wide, and one to two inches deep. We did not first "notice" this anomaly the next day while reading the newspaper. We viewed it live and in color as it was expoxsed by the studio cameras. No spin or denials can excuse, explain, or otherwise change our staff's unanimous certainty that an object lay beneath the coat. To hold otherwise is not spin, falsification, interpretation, or disingenuousness: it is outright lying, of the untruthful, unethical, non-Jesus is my close personal savior kind.

8:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

I find you to be living outside the realm of reality.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

The Patriot Act requires a court order to invade your privacy? I thought the whole point of the Patriot Act was to remove that obstacle. And what are the criteria for 'suspicious activity'? That needs to be layed out in detail...that definition can be bent and twisted in any direction. What about the 'Sneak and Peak searches'? The right for the FBI to seize records from a company without making any note about it?

Besides, did you know that the "court" that regulates the Patriot Act's use to invade the privacy of citizens is a secret court, that cannot be witnessed by anybody not authorized by the government...that records of the court's meetings are highly classified? There is no observability, no accountability. No accountability, no system of checks and balances, all of which equals a field day for anybody who feels like using the Patriot Act to do whatever the hell they want. If you don't believe the Government would ever do anything as horrible as that, just go back in history and look for the 'McCarthy Era'. You'll see just what America is capable of.

8:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

Has anyone considered the possibility that Bush could be a camel and the lump was merely a hulk of stored fat?

In reply to Anonymous
"Regarding HUMPGATE:
Are any of the news channels running this story?"

We're going to town with it in the UK.

Classic Bush quote: "Well what about Poland??? You're forgetting Poland!"

8:44 PM  
Anonymous said...

Has the McCarthy Era not been exposed for what it was? I am sure any similar use of the Patriot Act would be brought forth.

8:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

WHO GIVES A F***!!! HE IS PROLLY STREAMING PORN FROM A LAPTOP AND THE "BOX" GIVES HIM BETTER D/L SPEEDS..

YOU PPL ARE SAD LONELY INDIVIDUALS...

WHY DONT U GO AND PLAY WITH A FUNNELWEB OR COBRA OR SOMETHING THAT WILL DECREASE UR CHANCES OF LIVING!

8:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

I'm so tired of people defending Bush by saying the dems agreed with the WMD rumors, and that it somehow exonerates him. Even if they agreed.......and this is important............THEY DIDN"T TAKE US TO WAR OVER IT.........HE DID!!!

8:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

The one benefit to a Kerry run govenment - with Bush, Micheal Moore would be out of business!

8:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

Have a look at tons of video of the debate- this thing is real.

8:51 PM  
Anonymous said...

"I am no Bush fan but I am not willing to swallow this one guys. Who would fit a 'hidden' device to the protruding round of a mans back? Spend your time doing something more constructive like jerking off."


WOW, I LIKE THAT

8:52 PM  
Anonymous said...

Yes, the actions of the McCarthy era were exposed....after the fact. The damage had been more than done. Public oversight, public accountability are the best weapons of prevention against another such era. Not new laws that create secret police and an atmosphere of paranoia and fear in a nation that lauds its own freedoms.

8:56 PM  
Anonymous said...

If he was wired in the first debate, it was the dumbest own goal of any election I can easily bring to mind. In the second, he didn't look wired, so it doesn't really arise.
We have to judge by what he says. Kerry is working to a script playing in his head, but it is a lousy script.
If W's script is crap and he's wired, then his technology and his minders are the crap of the earth!
Could it be he's a regular guy groping for the answers? Not an orator perhaps, but on a good day he entertains. Kerry drones: too much practice in the Senate.
Wired or not, what W SAYS has to be the test: if it's about right, vote for W. If it isn't, too bad, but the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

8:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

Listen, I'm just saying that I find it strange that anyone would be paranoid. Any law enforcement agency has the ability to abuse their power. Warrants can be written, people go to jail wrongly accused. The objective of our free society is to ensure the safety of our citizens and their ability to be free. The best and most correct way to do this is with a mechanism in government that allows them the flexibility to take action when it is deemed necessary. If in four years the power has been abused, then I will join you in overthrowing the administration, as I am sure the rest of the nation would do as well. For the time being, however, the Patriot Act is one of our most important defenses against future terrorist attacks.

9:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

Bush wasn't wired for the second debate and he lost that one too. If this idiot (Is it just me or does he really look just like Alfred E Numan?) can't come up with enough flu vaccine, cheaper gas at the pump, and Osama's head on a platter, he'll be toast on November 4th.

9:04 PM  
Anonymous said...

Just more paranoia keeping the blogging alive! LOL Here is one for ya...There is somebody looking over your shoulder! Boo!
Yes, Chicken Little, the sky is falling. So, now you can get a life.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

Suggestion:

If Bush did have a receiver on his back, then the debate probably wasn't the first time. Since Bush has to be one of the most photographed people in the world, there are likely to be more photos of the mystery bulge at other events. If a few of the many bloggers at this site scoured the Internet for more pics, we might come up with something. For example, it looks like there could something weird under Bush's shirt in this Reuter's photo:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041001/ids_photos_ts/r2966852655.jpg

This photo is easily as ambiguous as the debate footage, but if Bush really was wearing a receiver, there is probably more evidence waiting to be found.

M.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

A culture of paranoia has existed in America since the very day Bush got into office. From the very second he set foot in the Oval Office, about half the country felt damn certain that he and his brother had played some kind of trick in Florida. That was a bad start to begin with, regardless of the truth of the situation.

With that sour not to start off his four years, why is it surprising that huge numbers of people across the country are paranoid and frightened about possible abuses of power? At the back of most of our minds, most of us have subconscious dreads about exactly what happened in Election 2000. The Democratic system, as it stands, relies a large amount on Trust. People need to have faith in the free world for it to function smoothly. That faith, that very trust, was shaken four years ago. That subconscious feeling of unease that sank into the American mind since then is, as I see it, largely responsible for the blooming sense of paranoia, fear, and distrust in the government since then.

Start off on a shaky footing, and everything you do from then on is cast in a bad light.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous said...

ANother ...and ....FOUND@ WHITEHOUSE.GOV


COPY THIS ..:COPY

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch8-515h.html

9:25 PM  
Anonymous said...

Keep in mind it was not Bush that propagated the lies about "Florida Concerns" but Gore.

9:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

And let's not forget, police abuses of authority DO happen. Every day. I have a friend working in social services who sees horror stories every other day. A lot of cops do horrible things to homeless people, street youth, native people...simply because nobody will care enough to complain about it. It's a negative picture, and I'm sorry to all the good cops out there (and good soldiers, and good FBI agents, etc.) but we, the citizens, need to make sure that we're on the ball. We need to watch the watchers, and make sure we're ready for the day too many authority figures go too far in abusing the rights we give them. That's why public oversight and checks and balances are important for the Patriot Act. It shouldn't be revoked utterly. But it should be seriously examined, and modified to safeguard against abuses. Opening up records of the court that determines the use of the Patriot Act to public scrutiny would be a great start. Requiring the FBI to give notification of 'sneak and peak' searches...even /after the fact/ notification would be fine by me. I know that they need to hide their efforts to catch criminals. But say, one month after the bust, release the details on the search, and the information taken. There's real concerns here that need to be taken seriously.

9:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch8-515h.html


As posted above, look at that. Another boxy shape between his shoulders. I'm not saying that it means anything, but...suspicious, isn't it?

9:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

Re: Ranch photo

What the hell is that?

M.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

ref pic of bush in pickup truck on ranch
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch8-515h.html

unlike the suit, this one looks like his shoulder blade.

the suit was just blatantly obvious. bush is dim at the best of times.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous said...

E.T is operated by some battery.
Likewise, Bush might have needed such operating battery.
The battery............that is the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It must be BATTERY case made in Korea.
lol

9:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

I can see where perhaps a system of checks and balances would be good. I guess I just trust the government to look out for it's citizens with the right people in office. Bush may not be a great orator, but I think he's probably a pretty decent guy, and I trust his administration not to abuse this power. Truth be told, Patrio Act or not, if something terrorist related is going on behind the scenes, odds are the government is going to do as it pleases anyway.

9:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

It's this simple:

Maybe it was a wireless receiver device.
Maybe it was a bulletproof vest.
Maybe it was a back brace.

All we know for sure is that the White House first denied that there was any bulge, then, when the bulge was proved to be clearly visible on the networks' satellite feed, all the White House would say was that it was not a receiver or a bulletproof vest.

Well, what the hell WAS it, then? The White House must know; why won't it say?

Maybe it's a wireless receiver device, and the White House doesn't want Bush to be caught cheating.

Maybe it's a bulletproof vest, and the Secret Service doesn't want would-be assassins to upgrade to cop-killers.

Maybe it's a back brace, and the president's handlers think admitting that he has posture problems or a bad back would make him seem less manly and therefore less able to stop terrorists from attacking us.

Whatever it is, I don't think it would be out of line for the candidates to have to submit to a scan with a metal detector wand as they enter the venue. Hey, if they can ask us to do it when we get on a plane, we can ask them to do it when they run for Commander in Chief of the Free Market World.

9:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

Every single one of you are quite possibly dumbest citizens to come out of America. It is embarassing to know that the majority of you have a say in the upcoming election.

9:51 PM  
Anonymous said...

Four more years of this Bush monkey?
Ex cokehead line-junkie?
Driving on beer drunky?
Freaking oilman flunky?
Swaggering, smirking,
War-duty shirking,
National honor besmirching,
Rich boy (no working),
Blueblood aristocrat,
Daddy's boy, up to bat,
Military Genius? (can you handle that!!)
Bring 'em on! (you dirty rat)
Commander in Grief.

9:53 PM  
Anonymous said...

I suppose you just trust the government more than I do, which is where we differ. I certainly don't doubt that the government will do whatever it damn well pleases to deal with a known terrorist threat that's occurring behind the scenes. But some level of public accountability is necessary to avoid a backslide into even more irresponsible policing and bad law enforcement. It's kind of an uneasy balance...we all known that the FBI, the CIA do things they're not supposed to. But we don't mind, because we know that activity exists behind a certain line. That a system of checks and balances close to home prevent that from encroaching too far on our personal freedoms. When that line is moved forward, it prompts justified fears about what will happen that we cannot find out about.

Something like the Patriot Act probably would have been fine in the 1940's or 1950's. People trusted the government back then. It was assumed that the government was working for the best interests of the people. All partisan rhetoric and Bush-slamming aside (though I still don't like him, sorry), I think Bush believes that Americans should think the same way they did 40 years ago. That the government is good, that people should trust them with their lives, and that public distrust of the government should be unthinkable. He's running policies as though it was still 1950, or else he wants to transform America to a state where it was in 1950. But the latter half of the 20th centure and the opening of the 21st century has been sharply characterized by cynicism and paranoia, distrust of government, running exactly contrary to the Bush policies. That is the reason, I think, for all the negativity thrown his way. He acts as though he believes everybody will assume the best of him. Not realizing that his very actions motivate a collective cultural bias to do the exact opposite, and assume the worst.

10:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

for those interested

it's most likely a digital encrypted signal with a floating frequency that changes every few seconds. anti-squelch so other signals won't create a screech with static,virtually impossible to pick up and decipher. ( what you'll get is a second here, a second there, on different frequencies. And you'd have to break the encryption just to get that.) The only thing that could hack or jam it are those lovely 600 foot digital cellular jammers made in taiwan shipped to the us for 'law enforcement or government use only'

Course you'd have to get within 600 feet and there is a 0% chance that would happen.

10:12 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/cell-phone-jammers.htm

10:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

Perhaps, but this is where this election really comes into play. Any intellectually honest person has to admit that John Kerry holds no solid opinion. To me that breeds the ultimate distrust!!! This election is not about John Kerry. It's about Bush, or anybody but Bush, and the Democrats really better analyze what they are stepping into.

10:18 PM  
Anonymous said...

Maybe it is a weapon of mass destruction...

10:18 PM  
Anonymous said...

I find some of these comments to be truly bizzare.

10:19 PM  
Anonymous said...

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10:21 PM  
johnnyd said...

The truly sad thing is that he couldn't win either debate, wire or no.

I feel sort of sorry for Rebulicans out there, having to defend such a confused puppet of a man.

They can't help sounding like idiots.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

There there JohnnyD, let's not be a hypocrite...was it not the democrats who cast the first stone at Bush for wearing a wire? It is the democrats who have to argue such a pointless matter against a "confused puppet of a man."

Idiot. And learn how to spell Republican.

Idiot.

10:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

Hey num-nums forget about the boxy bulge and turn your attention to the WIRE RUNNING UP TO HIS SHOULDER? Please explain that one Mr. French tailor? Man if that's a fancy suit, I'm going back to jeans and flannel. Of course the man was wired. Bush couldn't steer a docked boat.

10:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

You don't see a solid opinion on Kerry?

His comments in the second debate did it all for me. He would not force an atheist American, or any other denomination of American, to have to suffer (regarding stem cell research, abortion) because of laws passed with religious concerns in mind. Stem-cell research and Abortion /are/ religious issues, make no bones about it. Personally, I would love to ask Bush the question "what would you do the represent atheist, Buddhist, and other non-Christian Americans in your domestic policies?".

If he was truly blowing in the wind, he'd have done everything not to offend that religious base that he might win over. That, in itself, seems like a very strong stand to me.

10:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

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10:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

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10:31 PM  
Anonymous said...

Why doesn't someone demand that both candidates be checked for wires before the debate? Certainly this can be done with a simple wanding, and everyday citizens have to put up with it daily at airports. That way, we'll all be sure that the rules are being followed.

10:34 PM  
Anonymous said...

Look, you are talking about a stand on one issue. Please do not base your decision on who to vote for based solely on the debates!!! ABORTION IS NOT A RELIGIOUS ISSUE. WHEN YOU TAKE THE LIFE OF A BABY IT IS MURDER. IT NEVER CEASES TO ASTOUND ME HOW THIS HAS BEEN TWISTED AROUND IN THE HEADS OF LIBERALS. LETS PUT IT THIS WAY: IF A WILLING MOTHER WAS MURDERED IN AN ALLEY WHILE BEING MUGGED, WOULD YOU NOT CONSIDER THAT ALSO THE MURDER OF HER UNBORN BABY?!?!?!?!

10:35 PM  
Anonymous said...

I did notice that Bush was, once again, unable to list THREE mistakes he had made. Just 3? But then, when you hear the voice of God, how could you make mistakes?

I guess what pisses me off most is that he'll waltz off with his pension and 100% healthcare on my tax dollars to his plantation in Costa Rica. Hmmm outsourced his retirement home too!

10:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

Bush just contributed to the death of Christopher Reeves! I hope GW or his family members don't get a disease that stem cell science could cure...that would be too ironic.

10:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

Say, you're a terrorist in a sleeper cell. You're planning your attack for June 2006. Now let's say your a legal citizen in the United States...........
Who would you vote for?

10:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

I would vote for Bush because he has dragged his feet on funding Homeland Security. We check passengers for bombs, but not the cargo. We check less than 5% of the containerized cargo coming into US...why? TAX GAP created by his tax cuts to the wealthiest 2%. Numb nuts.

10:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

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10:41 PM  
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10:41 PM  
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10:41 PM  
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10:41 PM  
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10:41 PM  
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10:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

I found the CNN video of the press conference where "the voice talks" and Bush repeats.

Unfortunately, I have no way to save a RealAudio stream. The CNN video is available on-line from the Vanderbilt Television News Archive. Here's the catalog record information from there.

Bush - Chirac Press Conference
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Headline: Bush - Chirac Press Conference
Date: Jun 05, 2004 (Saturday)
Network: CNN
Abstract: President George Bush and French President Jacques Chirac hold joint News converence in Rome.
Broadcast Type: Special Program Segment Type: News Content
Program Header yes
Program Length 0:00 (Entire broadcast)
Video Begin :: am
Record Number: 756751
Online Video: Click here to view this video segment in RealMedia format
Begin Time: 12:51:20 am
End Time: 01:08:40 pm
Duration: 36:30

10:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

I import a product I helped devolop into the United States. The reality of the situation is that we inspect less than 1% of cargo containers coming into the US. NOW, that said - let's analyze the situation. Do you have any idea how much the equipment to search these containers costs? Now multiply that by 100 for R&D to upgrade to container sized equip and to implement in the busiest of US ports. NOW, you must deal with the economic side of this issue. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH COMMERCE COMES THROUGH OUR PORTS. If you want to cry about the economy, do not expect every container to be unloaded, examined, repacked, and reloaded. The process takes about a week as it is. The slowdown would have a huge impact on our economy, and the cost of shipping goods would increase dramatically.

Please do not refer to Bush's tax cuts in an ignorant manner. Bush's tax cuts to the wealthiest in the nation includes mostly businesses. That is subchapter s corps which file their taxes on personal tax returns. ANY SMALL BUSINESS WORTH ITS SALT GROSSES 200,000 A YEAR IN REVENUE. A typical business like this may have a couple 30,000 / year employees, insurance, leases, equipment, SOCIAAAL SECUUURITY, and in the end the owner accepts all the risk, and nets maybe a 75,000 income. These are the businesses that employ most of america. TAX THEM, AND THE ECONOMY WILL SUFFER. JOBS WILL BE LOST.

10:51 PM  
Anonymous said...

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10:55 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org This speaks for itself

10:55 PM  
johnnyd said...

There's no argument.

Just thousands of curious people who want to know what the hell that thing is.

It does shed light on what people already think about Bush.

It's so easy to believe that he would have a wire, because he is so obviously a puppet.

This is President of the U.S., and he couldn't win either debate against a so called flip-flopper, wire or no.

If Kerry is so bad, why does he so easily best Bush when they are face to face?

Bush seems like either meek, submissive dog around Kerry, or a shrill, excited poodle yipping for attention.

Pitiable.

11:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

11:05 PM  
Anonymous said...

"you are a shit head and you spend way to much time on this "blog". you are a sorry excuse for an american and if john kerry is elected president i hope that osama bin laden decides to plan another attack and blows your head off."

ignorance and hatred is so easily carried out in this primitive country. your attempt at defending a candidate through a 3rd graders thought capacity is very impressive i must say above average. patriotism is nice, but to be a patriot of this country you are prevy to all kinds of information and the ability to voice your opinion. however there is a difference between voicing your actual opinion on a matter and an extremely well thoguht out and witty outcry. i have nothing against what any of you people support and i never will, i would jsut love it if everyone could stay informed and jsut keep an open mind. dont shut things out because of a pre-determined beleive structure. new things come out some are better some are worse. democracy, and america itself were new and radically different at one point, are they so wrong? the fact is everything and everyone should get the liht of day, it would make sense woudln't it? to know as much as you can about both candidates before you make your desision. is a jury biased form the begining of a trial? people try and talk to me abotu the issues of today, about the election and who should win, whos right and whose wrong. everyones so opinoinated without knowing anything, its ok to have an opinion but it isnt without knowing anything on said topic. no one was forcing their opinion on you but you still managed to lash out, im sure you force yours on others and think they are wrong. you arent better because yout hink "right" all you ingnorant opinionated steadfast americans are abusing your privilages your country gave you. people die for your oil everyday now since the wars in the middle east. the "provocted" invasions of muslim states. taking on terrorists and suspected threats is one thing, that can be done correctly. pissing off the world community, raping power from the UN and upsetting one of the worlds largests religions isnt the proper way of going about it. i also dont care if bush was wired or not, it seems very trivial to me. if it is true both sides have sunk to a new low, the republicans for doing so and democrats for attempting to exploit it. what a wonderful perversion of our government system. that is my opinion in a nutshell. im not forcing it on anyone im staing it. im also stating how people can turn a perfectly clean and nice civilzed debate on a matter into a primitive slur of insults so easily. be ashamed for the love of your diety


-callen motherfucking potvin

11:21 PM  
Anonymous said...

What difference does it make, some are asking? Using electronic devices is prohibited according to the rules that were established by both parties for the debate. If he had a wire, he violated the agreed upon rules therefore, he cheated and should admit so. If he did indeed cheat, how can anyone look past that and elect this man President? I am glad that this issue has finally made it to the mainstream press. We should be appluading the mainstream press for not brushing this aside and actually doing some investigative reporting - finally!

11:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

">There's no argument.

Just thousands of curious people who want to know what the hell that thing is.

It does shed light on what people already think about Bush.

It's so easy to believe that he would have a wire, because he is so obviously a puppet.

This is President of the U.S., and he couldn't win either debate against a so called flip-flopper, wire or no.

If Kerry is so bad, why does he so easily best Bush when they are face to face?

Bush seems like either meek, submissive dog around Kerry, or a shrill, excited poodle yipping for attention.

Pitiable."There is definately something wrong with you. As I said earlier it's either Bush, or anybody but Bush. What the libs fail to understand is that the fact the Bush may not be a good orator has nothing to do with the issues. You have no comments to defend Kerry's stance, and so I find your posts to be of no value. It seems to me that you are the only one yipping.By the way people don't THINK about Bush the way you THINK about Bush. Bush has been anything but a puppet. He led this country into a battle that was not popular with all people or nations, and he did it because it was the right thing to do. I don't find that to be very puppet like at all.

Anyhow, but please keep you're yipping to yourself unless you have a valuable contribution to make.

11:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

Abortion IS a religious issue. If a woman is made pregnant against her wishes, she has no moral obligation (in my mind) to carry that child to term. Rape victims should not have to give birth to her attacker's child.

Besides, which is better: terminating an unborn fetus while it's a gathering of cells? Or giving birth to a child you KNOW you can't afford to raise properly, and knowingly bringing it to live where it will suffer? No contest for me. A woman has control of her own body. If she does not want to have a child, it is her right and her decision whether she will keep it. Making abortions illegal is legislating religious morality onto people who don't follow your beliefs.

11:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

bush is a pussy

12:11 AM  
Anonymous said...

Aren't you glad nobody killed you? Abortion is as much murder as anything else, and I just don't really understand how people don't see that. Rape is just like anything else in life, you must deal with it. When people have their children abducted, what do they do? They deal with it. When a co-worker does a crappy job on your project do you abort the project? NO. Here we are dealing with a human life. If you cannot afford a child you should not have been dealing within that spectrum of life in the first place. (Why is it that I suspect these people would tend to be more liberal). Anyhow, If you are too irresponsible to deal with that, then you can always give your child to a deserving home. And yes, babies do find adopted homes rather easily.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'd really love to hear a straight answer on exactly why the war on Iraq was the /right/ thing to do. If it was, then the right thing to do is to go to war with Iran too. And North Korea. The /right/ thing to do is to roll over every nation that could pose a potential threat, real or imagined, and replace it with a clone copy of your own government. There's a word for that. It's called "Imperialism". Because the world is only a safer place when everything is under US control, right?

12:14 AM  
Anonymous said...

Johnnyd, I am back again to refute your 8th grade education:

If Bush is a puppet as you say, then why are you and so many other people attacking Bush as a person. Why not attack the people that are controlling that puppet? Oh yeah, that's right because you are another populist Bush-basher.

And who says you need to speak well in order to be intelligent. Actors are some of the dumbest people alive and they can speak better than any political candidate out there...think about that for a while...

Dumbass.

12:15 AM  
Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
bush is a pussy

12:11 AM "

Yep, these are the kind of people that are voting for Kerry. You are a genius! Those 4 words are so enlightening...in fact I think I am going to vote for Kerry now!

I HOPE YOU GUYS LOVE PAYING TAXES BECAUSE KERRY WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH OF THOSE TO SHRINK THAT PAYCHECK EVEN MORE!! PLEASE GOVERNMENT, TAKE MORE MONEY FROM ME AND START MORE SHITTY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE USPS!! THANKS!

12:19 AM  
Anonymous said...

If my mother had chosen to abort me, I wouldn't be here to venture an opinion on that. I'd be more inclined to ask "was she in a position to raise me?" The decision would have been hers, based on her criteria.

And just what the FU*K do you mean by "you should just deal with it"? Impoverished woman A, barely making ends meet, gets raped. She has to lug a child around for nine goddamn months, getting heavier every month. She can barely work to support herself because she's pregnant, and that's not even taking into account the medical costs she'll rack up because she can't afford insurance. And yet, you demand that she carries that child to term. Why the hell should you have any say in that matter? Why should your morality have anything to do with her choices? If the owner of a building project chooses to scrap the project because of faulty construction, that's his choice to do so. Others in the construction industry might tell him it's a bad idea, that he shouldn't do it. But the government doesn't come in and tell him that he's not allowed to shut down the project. In the end, good idea or bad, it's his decision. Get your government out of our bodies.

12:20 AM  
Anonymous said...

HEY EVERYBODY, I THINK I SAW AN AUDIENCE MEMBER MOUTHING SOMETHING TO KERRY DURING THE DEBATE. LETS START A BLOG AND POST STUPID SPECULATIONS ABOUT IT!

12:21 AM  
Anonymous said...

American voters need to see Bush's file from the FBI--and fast. The election is almost here, but voters have no idea what the FBI has gathered on Bush over the years. If any journalists read this, hear my plea: Find out what the FBI has Bush. The press did a great job FOIA-ing Bush's National Guard records, but have dropped the ball on his FBI records.

releasebushsfbifile.blogspot.com

Wearing a wire at debates may be the least damaging thing to learn about Bush last week.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous said...

Point-in-case: Holland has high taxes by any other standard of economics. It also has a very good standard of living, high level of environmental reform, and a socialist government (God forbid!). All this for a country that legalized prostitution and drug use. Man, bet that sticks in white Republican America's bible-thumping craw, doesn't it? It should have caved in under its own decadence centuries ago, yet for some reason that country is doing just fine.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

releasebushsfbifile.blogspot.com IS EVEN SADDER THAN THIS BLOG!


HAHAHA, POOR MICHAEL

12:28 AM  
Anonymous said...

That's right DEAL WITH IT. That's the real world, buster. S*** happens, and you you say, man this sucks, but I'm going to buck up and go on with my life.

That's why successful people go to work when they are sick. Not that you libs would know anything about that. You're attitude is, deal with as little problems as possible, including putting your burdens off on others.

12:46 AM  
Anonymous said...

So, CNN Headline News has started mentioning this rumor...check it out.

Someone should capture the video and post it on this site.

12:59 AM  
Anonymous said...

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12:59 AM  
Anonymous said...

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1:00 AM  
Anonymous said...

Man, I sure wish I could type in all caps and laugh. Then I'd be able to make strong, convincing, logically sound arguments too...

Funny how Bush supporters are so alike to the man himself. Low IQ, no volume control. ;)

1:01 AM  
Anonymous said...

DEAL WITH IT, eh? It's the real world...people need to deal with their own problems. You're quite right. I totally agree. Each woman should deal with her own problems as they see fit. So..some of them deal with it having an abortion. Problem solved, right? Glad we can agree on this.

Unless, of course, you decide to step in and ban her from doing that. Then you're not letting her deal with it at all. You're trying to deal with it /for/ her. Which is something moronic hayseed Republican bible-thumping, book-burning knuckle-draggers do.

Heh. :) That was cathartic.

1:05 AM  
Anonymous said...

Listen, you are only contributing to the fusion of the Republican Party and religion. Now: the fact that Baptists do not believe in abortion, has nothing to do with the fact that life begins at conception. That has been proven, and not even most pro-choicers can any longer dispute that. So the issue is quite simple - you place less value on human life, see it as expendible. The fact that a human is still growing inside of a woman has little to do with it's status as a human. It may be growing into a baby that is ready to be born, but then again your four year old is also in a stage of devolopment. The importance placed on it's connection to a host is trivial at best and idiotic at worst.

1:15 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm not going to dispute the fact that it's a human life. But so long as another human being, the mother, is going to be chained to it for nine months, she has a choice as to whether or not she wishes to do so. I can see your argument working in environments where a woman, say, has unprotected sex knowing full well that she might get pregnant.

But there is a very real potential scenario, where a rape victim will not want to carry an unwanted child to term. The State forcing her to do so is a bad thing. Telling her 'boo-hoo, you got pregnant against your wishes, now sit it out for nine months and deal with it' is a horrible argument to make. Just as horrible, I think, as you'd consider killing unborn children. So which is worse? I'm siding with the mother's right to choice.

Unless, of course, you were willing to pay, out of your own pockets (perhaps as part of a social safety net Health Care system?) to cover her medical costs and the cost of living for time that she absolutely cannot work at around the third trimester. But you're not willing to do any of those things, right? Even though doing so could potentially save the life of an unborn child. Tsk tsk. But since you're not, then she has a very real financial choice to make. If that means having an abortion, then that's too bad. Life demands tough choices. Women who get abortions are making them.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm not going to dispute the fact that it's a human life. But so long as another human being, the mother, is going to be chained to it for nine months, she has a choice as to whether or not she wishes to do so. I can see your argument working in environments where a woman, say, has unprotected sex knowing full well that she might get pregnant.

But there is a very real potential scenario, where a rape victim will not want to carry an unwanted child to term. The State forcing her to do so is a bad thing. Telling her 'boo-hoo, you got pregnant against your wishes, now sit it out for nine months and deal with it' is a horrible argument to make. Just as horrible, I think, as you'd consider killing unborn children. So which is worse? I'm siding with the mother's right to choice.

Unless, of course, you were willing to pay, out of your own pockets (perhaps as part of a social safety net Health Care system?) to cover her medical costs and the cost of living for time that she absolutely cannot work at around the third trimester. But you're not willing to do any of those things, right? Even though doing so could potentially save the life of an unborn child. Tsk tsk. But since you're not, then she has a very real financial choice to make. If that means having an abortion, then that's too bad. Life demands tough choices. Women who get abortions are making them.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm not going to dispute the fact that it's a human life. But so long as another human being, the mother, is going to be chained to it for nine months, she has a choice as to whether or not she wishes to do so. I can see your argument working in environments where a woman, say, has unprotected sex knowing full well that she might get pregnant.

But there is a very real potential scenario, where a rape victim will not want to carry an unwanted child to term. The State forcing her to do so is a bad thing. Telling her 'boo-hoo, you got pregnant against your wishes, now sit it out for nine months and deal with it' is a horrible argument to make. Just as horrible, I think, as you'd consider killing unborn children. So which is worse? I'm siding with the mother's right to choice.

Unless, of course, you were willing to pay, out of your own pockets (perhaps as part of a social safety net Health Care system?) to cover her medical costs and the cost of living for time that she absolutely cannot work at around the third trimester. But you're not willing to do any of those things, right? Even though doing so could potentially save the life of an unborn child. Tsk tsk. But since you're not, then she has a very real financial choice to make. If that means having an abortion, then that's too bad. Life demands tough choices. Women who get abortions are making them.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous said...

As my professors would say...

I don't see any financial reason you can't get an A in my class.

But no, seriously - there are privately funded pregnancy crisis centers. Yes, some of them are sponsored by religious organizations, but so are some hospitals. But expecting others to pay for it is a little bit beyond reality and reason.

As a side note, the pretty picture of socialized medicne that was painted earlier - is not as peachy as it may seem. Often in countries where socialized medicne is established, you have to wait for months on a list before you ever even get to see a doctor. In addition, medical research stops without the capitalist ideals of a free market economy. The overall state of healthcare will go right down the tubes without the necessary tort reform being pushed by the Republican party. I can understand wanting to be compensated for a loss due to a medical mistake, but no amount of money is going to replace a loved one anyway, it is not worth endangering all of healthcare to line the pockets of ever-greedy lawyers.

1:43 AM  
Anonymous said...

By comparison, though, you have a country where people are allowed to die of curable diseases because they can't afford either insurance, or up-front medical bills.

What Canada is considering currently is a reasonable compromise, I think. A state-funded Health Care like they've already had for a while (which is, admittedly, feeling the pinch) layered underneath private health care system not unlike that of the United States. Those who can afford great care can go to the private system. Those that can't have a sub-tier system that can at least give them something to not, you know, die of the flu. Not perfect, but at least it isn't as callous as a purely money-driven system. It saddens me considerably that a sincere desire to end suffering and help others isn't the primary motivation for medical research, but that I suppose really IS the real world.

All of which has nothing to do with Abortion as an issue, though. At the bottom line, I suppose I'm saying that yes...abortion is killing an unborn child. But I consider the rights of a pregnant woman to be more important. That's something you can criticise me of, go ahead. I won't care. Like I said before, tough choices need to be made. Sometimes lives hang in the balance. In war, for a greater goal, you accept that innocent lives will be killed. Maybe you don't like it, maybe you think it's horrible, but you do it. I see the same applying to unwanted pregnancies in a tight financial situation. Something has to give. In some cases, that'll be the child. Sad, but true.

1:57 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm a french guy and I feel sorry for you american citizens having to handle with this "so-called" president of a great democracy when you see all this bullshit happening around him. Don't you think there is a serious problem when your own president (supposed to be leading a democracy of nearly 300 million people part of World's N1 nation)has to be assisted with some microphone when doing his job of "politics"? Please, for the good of the entire world, don't vote for him. Thank you

2:50 AM  
Anonymous said...

About Kerry perhaps raising taxes. I'd rather have Kerry raising taxes and getting us out of the debt Bush has given to us then to just add to that mountain of debt and force my kids and grandkids to pay it down.

I think it's wonderful how people are not only going to be voting for Kerry because of them being Anti-Bush but also because he is winning them over with his policies.

4 Years ago I was a Republican. These last 4 years that Bush has given us all have been unacceptable. I don't want 4 years of the same. This November, Kerry has my vote.

-JS

2:55 AM  
Anonymous said...

I had been asking myself many times: "who are those people who vote for Bush". Well, here I have found the answer:

-People who have been cowed by terrorism and the administration's ceaseless scaremongering to be willing to give up their rights and liberties.
-Fascists who believe they have a right to prevent a woman from deciding whether or not to have a child AND fascists who want to prevent disabled and sick people from being cured with stem-cells. Oh, and who want to interfere with the right of consenting adult people to do what they want in their bedrooms - or get married. Where does this need to f**k up the lives of other people come from? Isn't the US the Land of the Free?
-Angry people who believe in "iron will" and "decisiveness" instead of brains and reason.

Although the box seems too low-tech to be used in this wiregate thing, Bush does look like someone being prompted.

3:16 AM  
Anonymous said...

Seems to me that he is wearing a bullet proof vest...
I would if I were him!

4:02 AM  
Anonymous said...

If it's true that Bush was wired, he could always defend it by claiming pre-emptive action.

-ricky from the philippines

4:03 AM  
Anonymous said...

Shame on all of you! Is this what we have all become? My son is an officer in the Marines and the photo looks just like the protective vests he wears under his uniform in Iraq. If Bush was wired with help then why did Kerry kick his butt in the first debate? Why? Because Bush was afraid to come across "angry and hostile" so he did a "Rodney King" performance but the second debate he finally took off the gloves. People, President Bush will win this election and it won't matter what you think or say on this web site. If I were all of you, I would go ahead and make your November 3rd appointments with your Therapists while there are still openings. It would be great for it to come down to Florida again just to watch the blade go in one...more... time! Yeah Baby Yeah!

Sincerely - getalife.

4:14 AM  
Anonymous said...

Just admit it, Bush won in 2000 but all of you angry people are still stuck in Florida. Get help please! Have you ever heard of B.O.H.I.C.A. Get some KY.

Happy Trails

4:28 AM  
Anonymous said...

Casey says: Maybe it was a bulletproof vest?

4:41 AM  
Anonymous said...

Isn't it funny that a lot of Bushmen are telling us here to go get a life? So what are they doing posting their comments on this page? Getting a life?

-vote bush and dick, and you get f***ed.

4:42 AM  
Anonymous said...

"John Kerry today offered another example that proves he is a candidate with no principles beyond the political need of the moment. John Kerry talked for years about the threat of Saddam Hussein's weapons programs. He said that inspections would only be a 'game,' and he voted to authorize force to remove Saddam Hussein. Today he took the opposite position, saying that Saddam Hussein was contained, despite findings to the contrary from the Duelfer report which concluded sanctions were weakening and that Saddam Hussein intended to reconstitute his weapons programs."


You might try reading the Duelfer report. In fact, the report, by the man the Bush administration chose to evaluate the effectiveness of sanctions, shows how extraordinarily successful the inspectors were in locating and dismantling the WMD. The report concludes that the sanctions worked! The inspections were SUCCESSFUL! 1000 Americans and 20,000 Iraqis dead because our president was in such a damned rush to get the person who "tried to kill my Dad".


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"you are a shit head and you spend way to much time on this "blog". you are a sorry excuse for an american and if john kerry is elected president i hope that osama bin laden decides to plan another attack and blows your head off."


This is just plain SICK!


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"nd who says you need to speak well in order to be intelligent. Actors are some of the dumbest people alive and they can speak better than any political candidate out there...think about that for a while... "

Yes. Ronald Reagan was an actor.

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"HOPE YOU GUYS LOVE PAYING TAXES BECAUSE KERRY WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH OF THOSE TO SHRINK THAT PAYCHECK EVEN MORE!! PLEASE GOVERNMENT, TAKE MORE MONEY FROM ME AND START MORE SHITTY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE USPS!"

The difference between Bush and Kerry is that Kerry will at least try to pay for his programs. What is the deficit now? Over $1,000,000,000,000. How in the hell will this be paid off? And its increasing every second of the day! It's no wonder that Bush's businesses did poorly under his "command". (Note: This happens when you party and don't take your studies seriously.)

****************************************************************

"If Bush was wired with help then why did Kerry kick his butt in the first debate? Why? Because Bush was afraid to come across "angry and hostile" so he did a "Rodney King" performance but the second debate he finally took off the gloves."

So, Kerry kicked his butt. Let me get this straight. The leader of the richest and strongest country in the history of the world is unable to properly articulate and defend his own policies. If this is what you want in a leader, God help you!

5:12 AM  
Fred said...

don't you think that if he WAS wired he'd do a better job? it takes a real jackass to have experts telling you what to say and you still come off sounding like a moron. now, i do happen to think Jeopary "champ" ken jennings may be wearing one.

5:23 AM  
Anonymous said...

So many off topic discussions, how about the wire in this video ?? The whitehouse refuses to answer up about it.

5:39 AM  
Anonymous said...

The next live-debate will be a mtv-production: bush unplugged :-)

5:39 AM  
cosmo said...

People, you all need to accept something very important; the republican base is not just voting for Bush, their voting for his handling crew as well. There is no need to admit it, you feisty right-wingers, but you would much rather have Cheney in Bush's debate spots. W is a hell of a campaign stop performer, he riles up the base with his rhetoric, grins, winks, and zingers; but it's not him coming up with his material, and these are three debates, not speeches. It is important that each of these campaign stops is carefully scripted, for both canidates, so that they are no more than vessles for their advisors. Kerry can debate (though perhaps not explain), but Bush can only repeat. If Bush was wired (which I would not rule out, but doubt seriously), so what, he would have been doing what he always does, repeating what someone smarter tells him to. Perhaps the solution to all of this is to have a fully nude final debate; yes,lets all turn this election into a mere dlck measuring contest, afterall, it has been shaped into little more than that already by Bush/Kerry, their advisors, pundits, media outlets, and our arbitrary bullshlt.

5:44 AM  
Anonymous said...

someone posted this link here
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch8-515h.html
and i think it's pretty important for that matter.

Looks like the same device Bush was wearing during the presidential debate. If it were some audio thingy, for Carl Rove to give him advice, then why should he wear it in his truck during his holidays?

Don't get me wrong, I think Bush is wired, and he certainly is an idiot, but the photos unfortunately don't prove it.

They would attach this audio device somewhere else , not on his back, for everyone to see it. I think it's something for his back, helping him to stay straight.

5:45 AM  
stoo said...

I wish Bush were wired...it would reassure me that someone else is making decisions about important issues rather than Bush himself.

I now know what will be the number 1 toy this Christmas...Remote-Controlled Bush Figures :)

5:56 AM  
Anonymous said...

to the woman who said'My son is an officer in the Marines...in Iraq' and she's a bush supporter. I understand you're proud of him and i hope he comes home safe, i hope they all do. I am a marine, now out on a medical discharge. I remember listening to some stupid middleaged woman on the bus before the war started who said 'oh, i don't know why you're so against it, it'll be a cakewalk'
yeah, and if it isn't it won't be you bleeding to death in desert sand you stupid bitch.For what?

so we can force some arab to vote? he'll probably just vote for a cleric anyway.

elections aren't going to change a thing. It won't get better until we leave and probably won't get better then either. 10 years from now when it looks like beirut or colombia and they have elections in between their street wars you will realize the pie-in-the-sky democracy-cures-everything argument is bullshit.

and hopefully, you son will not have died for it.

6:04 AM  
DJ said...

Ever thought how silly Bush would look if this plot were to be discovered? Even George W. would not take this risk. In addition, these pictures are not very convincing anyway.

DJ

6:17 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://cryptome.org/bush-bulge.htm#28 Go to this website! Shows multiple photos at different times of GW's back. While the website says the shape doesn't change, I beg to differ. Make up your own mind. I have worn suits and have seen alot of people wear suits and they have a tendency to bulge, sag, etc. If the suit fits right, it should be a little difficult to fold your arms and yes, it will bulge on the upper back like that. Funny how in the series of photos, the bulge cannot be seen and then it grows as the President moves his arms. Which brings me to my point. The wired thing is a hoax . . . duh! What is more important is GW's posture! He should have stoodup tall, not crossed his arms, grabbed the sides of the podium agressively and looked presidential. Of course, the podium was too tall and looked tailor made for Kerry who is much taller than the president. I like this president but his advisors did not address this issue.

6:30 AM  
Anonymous said...

I must admit, this article (see link below-copy and paste onto your address line) sent chills down my spine. The possibility had never entered my mind that Saddam's coy games about having WMD's, even apparently to the extent of fooling his own generals as well as the UN inspectors, could have been a complex ruse intended not for the U.S., but rather more importantly to keep the Iranian Revolution at bay. I knew that it was utter madness when we removed his boot from the necks of the Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq, where they had been cowed into powerlessness for forty years, but the real stupidity of Bush's war is that we have walked right into the hands of the Iranians by removing the only real impediment to their nuclear (or is that nucular?)domination of the region. Except, of course, for us. No draft? No tax increases? If you believe all that I have some land in downtown Fallujah I'll sell you real cheap.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is the ancient Arab code of the desert. Saddam thought we understood what he was up to. But fratboy cheater Bush and his neocon-jerkoff-cronies, ideologically blinded in an almost Islamic way, will surely go down in history (that is, if there is going to be much of a future) for being so stupid that they could not grasp the reality that Iraq under Saddam, the only truly secular state in the Arab world, was our best hope for long-term regional suppression of the Jihadists. By turning our attention from the real war on terror we have squandered the support of the whole world and stuck our head in a hornets' nest. The first phase of aggressive Islamic Jihad against the world lasted from 711 to 1683. We won that round. But settle down in your seats folks, and grab a bag of popcorn. This next phase is up for grabs, and thanks to Quasimodo RoboBush and his handlers' incompetence it is going to be much more costly and take awhile.

6:34 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/3knrp

6:35 AM  
Anonymous said...

So you hate Bush,.. that's fine. But you are a complete moron if you think Kerry would be better in office. Bush has a position he stands for,.. Kerry,.. well,... No one is really sure where he stands. Kerry keeps condemning issues and then makes statements saying he going to do what he just condemned. Get over your hated for Bush, and quit blinding yourselves from seeing the truth about Kerry. I don't agree with everything Bush says or does, but Kerry is a "talker". He is saying whatever is nessecary to get in to office, and his supporters are either not listening, too dumb to realize, or just don't care. Very sad that most Democrats and other Kerry supporters have become so brain dead that they can't see what Kerry is really doing.

7:15 AM  
Anonymous said...

Hi guys, I'm an European guy, who just can say that everybody knows that your president isn't smart enough to perform like he did last weekend. The question is, after 9-11, will you Dems be so stupid to let this guy run this country for 4 more years and give us European another four years of jokes, I mean, dramatic jokes, because the sentence "Bush is President" or "Bush won the presidentials" is a joke itself: his staff did, not him, it just reminds me of this Metallica song "Master of Puppets"...Actually isn't Mr Rove that master?

7:18 AM  
Anonymous said...

"All of which has nothing to do with Abortion as an issue, though. At the bottom line, I suppose I'm saying that yes...abortion is killing an unborn child. But I consider the rights of a pregnant woman to be more important. That's something you can criticise me of, go ahead. I won't care. Like I said before, tough choices need to be made. Sometimes lives hang in the balance. In war, for a greater goal, you accept that innocent lives will be killed. Maybe you don't like it, maybe you think it's horrible, but you do it. I see the same applying to unwanted pregnancies in a tight financial situation. Something has to give. In some cases, that'll be the child. Sad, but true."

What about a mother that reaches financial strain after she has a baby. Should she kill that one too? How is that any different?

7:20 AM  
Anonymous said...

Are any more news organizations running with this story today besides CNN Headline news?????

Lulu

7:23 AM  
Anonymous said...

"to the woman who said'My son is an officer in the Marines...in Iraq' and she's a bush supporter. I understand you're proud of him and i hope he comes home safe, i hope they all do. I am a marine, now out on a medical discharge. I remember listening to some stupid middleaged woman on the bus before the war started who said 'oh, i don't know why you're so against it, it'll be a cakewalk'
yeah, and if it isn't it won't be you bleeding to death in desert sand you stupid bitch.For what?

so we can force some arab to vote? he'll probably just vote for a cleric anyway.

elections aren't going to change a thing. It won't get better until we leave and probably won't get better then either. 10 years from now when it looks like beirut or colombia and they have elections in between their street wars you will realize the pie-in-the-sky democracy-cures-everything argument is bullshit.

and hopefully, you son will not have died for it."
How dare you speak to this woman in such a disrespectful way. How would you feel if it was your child in Iraq?! Which speaks nothing of the importance of our being there. Maam, please thank your son for his service on my behalf.

7:23 AM  
Anonymous said...

are you freaking joking? isnt it funny how all conspiracy theories seem to come from liberals? let me guess, you all believe that there is also a legitimate connection between bush and al queda too? and that they secretly met at area 51 with JFK's killer, elvis, and a green martian? go read some more michael mooretwinkies masterpieces if you need some more material to wow your co-workers at the watercooler--which, by the way bush's administration has contaminated right? try winning the election and respect with substance instead of false accusations, repetition, and trying to fool the generally uneducated public that your party fights for them--the common man, and that the republicans want to suppress your votes, let your grandmother die and want to listen to your phone calls. the amazing thing is that 46% of our country actually is dumb enough to believe that stance and that the johns "have a plan" to make the world's problems go away.

7:23 AM  
Anonymous said...

Leave it to CNN to pick up a bogus liberal story like this.

7:26 AM  
Paul Harper said...

This is easy. Just get the candidates to take their jackets off next time. Where's the problem?

7:39 AM  
Anonymous said...

Ok, I'll bite: the reason this is unacceptable is that by doing so, you are admiting that Bush was perhaps wearing a wire in the first debates. Now, have any of you thought that perhaps he is wearing something. Maybe it's something he wears all the time? Maybe it's classified what it is and you could talk forever and never find out about it. I know an engineer that got clearance to work on a top secret "desk" one time. He spent like a year and a half on it - all I ever found out was that it was a desk. I don't know where it is, or what it's top secret features are. And neither does anybody else - or you - this blog is mental.

7:48 AM  
Anonymous said...

It's funny how people who spend their days foaming at the mouth over the egregious lies of the hypocritical drug addict Limbaugh and the pseudo-journalism of Matt Drudge can have the chutzpah to tell opponents of Cyborg Humpback George to 'get a life'.
I happen to be anti-abortion and pro-second amendment. But this is not an abortion thread. It is a thread discussing whether the sitting President of the United States has committed a high crime of historical proportions by cheating in a Presidential debate with the nonchalance of a frat boy cheating on a history test. I believe the hump and wires are worth looking into. But isn't it interesting how the 'Liberal' media are keeping the lid on the whole story?
You nut job right wingers should read Thomas Frank's book 'What's the matter with Kansas' to see how you have been duped by Bush and his brood of ruling class vipers. Get a life? Get a brain!
As for you Europeans who claim such wisdom. Stay out of our politics. You who produced the Inquisition, the Dreyfus Affair, Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin have no leg to stand on. If it weren't for us you'd all be slaves. We may have our problems but we are still the last, best hope for mankind.

7:51 AM  
Anonymous said...

Would you idiots give it a rest already? Do you have nothing better to do than make up bs?! First off, the "box" you all refer to is not protruding; it looks TOTALLY like part of the pull in his suit. And, did it ever dawn on you know-it-alls that perhaps the president may be wearing some kind of protective/security device? You are so intent on bashing the president and proving idiotic points that you can't see reality right in front of you. Grow up, already!! You clearly have way too much time on your hands!

7:51 AM  
Anonymous said...

Hey guys, me again, the european. Have none of you seen this movie "Operation Swordfish?" He was playing a terrorist, ready to kill people to prserve America's way of life, freedom...Is "the American Way of Life" a good that is worth killing a few innocent Americans to protect? Is retaliation against terrorist attacks a good that justifies an army of assassins funded through thievery and deceit? And if human lives are expendable in order to maintain a standard of living or a "way of life," then where does such killing end - with your own citizens, children and friends? Now think about the poor guys in these towers (may God have their soul)...It all started there: war against terrorism, where are the terrorists? Still at large, laughing and still ploting...Oh, I forgot, they got a dictator...not the worst one, not the best, just one...among many others, but this one was sitting on the 2nd largest oil reserves of the world, just ranked behind Saudi Arabia...not bad to preserve the american way of life, with less than 15 years of oil reseve in America's soil...Just thinking about the fact that they're many kind of terrorism, some are clear, some other are not...Osama Bin Laden is purperportedly in Waziristan (so said us special forces), and they likely to know it for over a year now. With all this (wired) technology, where's that bastard? Still in Waziristan, or likely to. USA have high satellites who are able to read your newspaper's title, and those satellites are unable to locate Osama Bin Laden since 1992, when he blew up the US Embassy in Dar Es Salam? The US Government may ask for their money back to these satellites makers...

7:52 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, I'll start my own blog - arewekillingbabies.com - now wait, we agree on that allready.

7:57 AM  
Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, I'll start my own blog - arewekillingbabies.com - now wait, we agree on that already.

7:57 AM  
Anonymous said...

Yes, Bush is wired, everybody knows that he doen't have any skills to rule the country, so why people ask it for? Wether with a device or not, the guy is wired by his so called 'aides'who provide him with what he has to say and what he has to do...Obviously he's Wired, the question is, when will he be Fired, from the White House?

8:02 AM  
Anonymous said...

are you freaking joking? isnt it funny how all conspiracy theories seem to come from liberals? let me guess, you all believe that there is also a legitimate connection between bush and al queda too? and that they secretly met at area 51 with JFK's killer, elvis, and a green martian? go read some more michael mooretwinkies masterpieces if you need some more material to wow your co-workers at the watercooler--which, by the way bush's administration has contaminated right? try winning the election and respect with substance instead of false accusations, repetition, and trying to fool the generally uneducated public that your party fights for them--the common man, and that the republicans want to suppress your votes, let your grandmother die and want to listen to your phone calls. the amazing thing is that 46% of our country actually is dumb enough to believe that stance and that the johns "have a plan" to make the world's problems go away.

8:11 AM  
Anonymous said...

Perhaps, www.isitwrongtokillbabies.com would that be more appropriate?

8:16 AM  
Anonymous said...

Wire devices are not planted that high on the back (between the shoulder blades). They're placed closer to the "small" of the back.

8:17 AM  
Anonymous said...

Here's the lump in a different picture, in 2002, with a different explanation - back brace.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1027382&mesg_id=1027382

8:19 AM  
Anonymous said...

OK, I'm just a lowly single mom here..no special credentials or anything like that, but I am wondering why in heaven's name the mainstream media is virtually ignoring this? It could well be nothing, or a back brace, or something, but let's find out! With 3 wks to election day, time is running out. What can be done to get this matter investigated?

8:35 AM  
Anonymous said...

To single mom:

Email the contact addresses of the major media outlets and let them know you want to hear more on the story.

Air America radio just did a very small spot on the lump but unfortunately they mostly did it for laughs.

The networks need to put an investigative reporter on this instead the cheapo reporting tactic of phoning around to ask campaign director for a statement.

8:43 AM  
Anonymous said...

The back brace theory is plausible, as is your suggestion why the Bushies would lie about it. Either way they are liars. But something is there, no doubt about it. Unfortunately politics in the US is no different than two sports fans arguing over the replay as to whether someone was out of bounds or not when they caught the ball. Just like in this case, it doesn't matter what really happened, just what the officials decide, so shout as loud as you can. If the game is lost to bad officiating, too bad, as long as it's in my favor. The real fan(atic) will see what he needs to see to keep his fragile ego intact.
I think this needs a full-fledged, bipartisan overseen NASA/Jet Propulsion Lab video analysis, and if Bush cheated he should resign or be impeached as soon after the election as possible.

8:46 AM  
Anonymous said...

OK, All I want to know is what is the bulge. The wrinkle-in-the-jacket story does not fit. This is not some sort of Internets(sic) blog conspiracy. If the President of the United States may be cheating in a debate, what else has he been hiding?

It is common for a guilty party to laugh off the initial accusations and then respond with venom when questioned further. How many photos do we need to see before the President comes clean with the American people? It is already known that he has used such equipment in the past. It would not be a big stretch to have him using it again.

C'mom Pres, level with us.

8:50 AM  
Anonymous said...

BUSH CHEATED THE HALL WORLD - even his fellowship!

I know what a bulge looks im a mendresser.
And the bulge on the fox news isnt a bulge!
Also their is still a wire which syndicate it cant be ever a bulge!

Whitehouse said he had no armor-anything!

The Ranch image is a evidence to proof what he looks liek with an armor!


IT s OVER . GAME OVER MR. BUSH - YOU CHEATED TRICKED LIED GENERATIONS U BROIGHT THIS PLANET WAR AND TERROR.NOW AMERICANS - THE REAL PATRIOTS STAND UP!

END THIS PUPPET SHOW!

8:56 AM  
Anonymous said...

If you believe any of this trash on this site, you're an idiot.

9:08 AM  
Anonymous said...

I just sent the following email to the networks, and to fox as well(not that I think they'll do anything, but what the hey!)

Hello,
I have been intrigued by the stories on the internet about President Bush being "wired" , particularly during the debates. I know that they sound farfetched, but as they are becoming so rampant, I am hoping that someone would investigate these claims and either substantiate them or put them to rest. It may well be a pucker in his suit, or a back brace, or a bullet-proof vest, but we need to know. Calling the White House or the Republican National Commitee and asking their opinion is fine, but not enough. I want to know what is going on, and so do many other Americans. Please, please investigate this situation!
Thank you sincerely,

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9:26 AM  
Anonymous said...

This is now WIRE-GATE!!
The 'legitimate' TV news channels do not seem to be covering this. Why not? We need to ask a lot more questions, and demand the answers!

9:34 AM  
Anonymous said...

anonymous said: "How dare you speak to this woman in such a disrespectful way. How would you feel if it was your child in Iraq?! Which speaks nothing of the importance of our being there. Maam, please thank your son for his service on my behalf."

How dare I? I received a medical discharge from the marines. SO BlOW ME with your thanks for the service.

I made friends I hoped I'd know 20 years from now and now they're just a grave and a terrible emptiness. Ask a crippled veteran or a war widow if it was worth it.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AND WE DON'T HAVE TO STAY.

9:45 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

9:48 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

9:48 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

9:48 AM  
Anonymous said...

Just a couple of questions:

1. If Bush was wired for the first debate, why was he so inarticulate? I could go for the idea of equipment malfunction, but I'd like to hear any other thoughts on this.

2. What fun would it be if someone could hack in and send something else? Wishful thinking, I know: the stuff's engineered to be tamper-resistant, and you'd need at very least the operating frequency. But indulge me on this point. I, for one, would love it if someone sent the broadcast of whatever baseball playoff game is on that night. That way I could watch two things at once.

9:51 AM  
Anonymous said...

RADICAL MEN

Daniel Webster

…There is no nation on earth powerful enough to

accomplish our overthrow. Out destruction, should

it ever come at all, will be from another quarter. From

the inattention of the people to the concerns of their

government, from their carelessness and negligence.”


Thomas Jefferson

“The two enemies of the state are criminals and government,

so let us tie the second down with the chains of the

Constitution so the second will not become a legalized

version of the first”


John Adams

“There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free

government ought to be to trust no man living with the

power to endanger the public liberty.”


George Washington

“Government is not reason, and it is not eloquence;

it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous and fearful

master: never for a moment should it be left to

irresponsible action”


Ben Franklin

“Those who would give up an essential liberty

for temporary security, deserve neither liberty

or security.


James Madison

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgement

of freedoms of the people by gradual and silent

encroachment of those in power than by violent and

sudden usurpations.”


Sam Adams

“.. it does not require a majority to prevail, but

rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush

fires in people’s minds..


Anybody got a match?

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

9:59 AM  
Anonymous said...

The blindly faithful Bushites cannot handle the truth. All they can do is slander and attack those of us with eyes to see and ears to hear. If you value the truth and want to get to the bottom of this, please go to this site- http://www.hereinreality.com/ -find the Master Email List and send your concerns to every media outlet at once. They must be forced out of their cowardice and made to investigate this. The White House has already denied that Bush was wearing either a back brace or body armor, so you brilliant minds who keep postulating these theories while calling us idiots are really showing your intellectual superiority. What are you all so determined to hide?

10:01 AM  
Anonymous said...

The reason the very liberal media is not covering this story is that you are all living outside the realm of reality to think that Bush was wiiired like a bunch of cry-baby hacks.

10:04 AM  
Anonymous said...

yawn

10:06 AM  
Anonymous said...

The box bulge on my back is there cuz.......Kerry is a flip-flop and........it's hard work!

George W

10:07 AM  
Anonymous said...

Hey all, to me it could be one of the following:
he's wired,
it's for medical reasons,
it's a bulge/tailoring.

The first possiblity is pretty well-explored, as is the third. So I will look a little further into the medical subject. I recently saw a documentary on the First Patient, caring for the President's health. It discussed the stress of the world's most important job, and showed that over the past presidencies, the presidential doctors went to great lengths to cover up any signs the President was weakening. At the first debate, my first reaction was how much shorter the President appeared, standing next to the Senator. He was hunched over and leaning pretty heavily on the podium. At the second debate, his back appeared very round on top, like a hunchback. Since I am not a doctor, I don't know if these observations have any medical implications or not. However, the documentary did suggest that this President's health was not what it used to be, which leads me to believe the 'lump' could be for there for medical reasons the administration wants to cover up.

Wired, bad tailoring, or failing health, I am very interested to see how the third debates turn out, now that many people have their eyes on the 'shape' of the President.

10:07 AM  
Anonymous said...

Im a person that wants to believe that bush was wired.

BUT, i have to say, that if the Bush administration wanted to use some sort of remote prompting, surely they could afford to make one that, say, fits in the sole of a shoe... or spread out the electronics so it was flat.

or even an off-the-shelf one held in his pocket would be less conspicuous than strapping it to his back.

On another note, to the person who pointed out that people were patting him on the back afterwards... ask your self this, what people would be patting him on the back (supporters/pro bush-ites) and do you think his bodyguards would let just anyone get up close? i dont think so.

10:49 AM  
Anonymous said...

This link was very dificult to find after the 1st time seeing it. Please take a good look and consider it for the front page of isbushwired.com

Scroll down 5 comments to the picture of Bush tucking in his tie. The tie moves to reveal a cable. This is from the 2nd debate.

See The Picture
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/tie034.jpg

Watch the video.
http://members.cox.net/unmarked/002.wmv

10:53 AM  
Anonymous said...

I posted anonymously because it was fast! The Patroit Act does not make me fearful to speak my mind. Bush was wired. It's in the photo. The Democrates should make a big deal about this and not have the finally debate. Since Bush is a cheater, lair and ,appearenlty, ignorant.

10:55 AM  
Anonymous said...

1) look at the other pictures at that white house web site the above posters linked to:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch5-729v.html
The third and fourth photos show bush with headphones coming out from the back of his T-shirt, possibly originating from where the "bulge" is situated on his back. No one's really mentioned those (altho I may have missed it). Pretty low-tech it seems....maybe it's just some standard radio that he wears regularly to stay in contact with his staff/secret service, maybe even just music? No one's mentioned it so I thought I'd throw it out there

2) I think Time magazine has behind-the-scenes photos from debate 1 showing Karl Rove et al in the spin room watching the debate and ready to respond...so there's Mr. Rove's alibi for that evening. Just putting that one out there too.

11:06 AM  
Anonymous said...

http://hoffmania.blogspot.com/2004_10_03_hoffmania_archive.html#109727429353942000

Okay, Hoffmania has posted a photo of Bush from February at the linik above, and in the photo Bush is clearly shown wearing an earpiece!!! Perhaps we can prevail upon the blogger to tell us where he obtained the photo and include a URL. In the meantime, I suggest that everyone email/fax this link to every newspaper, TV station, radio station, news wire service, blogger, political campaign (national, state, and local), et cetera, and let's get the word out BEFORE the third and final debate on Wednesday.

The truth be told, Bush really is a "dummy," and Cheney/Rove are the ventriloquists who pull his strings and make his mouth work. LMSAO It's time we all take the time and make the effort to wake up the voting public before it's too late.

SherAn

11:25 AM  
Anonymous said...

3) Oh, and about the cable behind Bush's tie in debate 2, it was probably a wire from a back-up microphone, which must connect from the tie via a wire to a transmitter that is in his suit pocket or clipped on a belt (called a body-pack transmitter). Here's a helpful diagram:

http://www.shure.com/booklets/intro/intro_to_wireless.html

(look at the second diagram).

11:27 AM  
Anonymous said...

i also posted anonymously because i dont have a blogger account.

anyway, i just wanted to point out that this story (with pictures) has made the uk national tv news (i just saw it).

In this news piece, a political analyst pointed out that if he bought a suit for £3000 that hunched everytime he leant forward:

1) he wouldnt use the tailor again
2) hed ask for his money back and
3) how did such a poor tailor become the tailor to so many US presidents!?

11:27 AM  
Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
"The third and fourth photos show bush with headphones coming out from the back of his T-shirt, possibly originating from where the "bulge" is situated on his back. No one's really mentioned those (altho I may have missed it)."

In these pictures of Bush clearing brush, the 'headphones' coming out of both ears are very commonly known to working men such as myself as 'earplugs'. He is obviously cutting wood with a chain saw.
This has nothing to do with the bulge clearly visible on Bush's back from numerous angles in the many photos I've seen of the debate. There is something very fishy here, and we need to get to the bottom of it. The future of our country depends on this issue. Please urge the media to investigate this issue!

11:30 AM  
Anonymous said...

Hi!
My name is Andres and I live in Uruguay, Southamerica. Here we don't think Bush used any sort of earpice in the Bush KArry debate. Why do we don't think so? Because here we don't believe he can even repeat words.

11:32 AM  
Anonymous said...

I've finally figured out why Cheney always talks out of the corner of his mouth- that's the way ventriloquists fool you into thinking the little dummy is really doing the talking!

11:33 AM  
Anonymous said...

Why don't anyone ask the moderator of the first debate if he was trying to interrupt Bush before Bush said "Let me finish"?

11:42 AM  
Anonymous said...

"the 'headphones' coming out of both ears are very commonly known to working men such as myself as 'earplugs'"

whoa...I should've thought of that. I hereby stand corrected. Fight on everyone!

11:47 AM  
willisjackson said...

I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but that second debate... Did anyone else notice something strange about Bush's behavior? That constant weird jaw movement? His rapid fire blinking? His total inability to sit still or be quiet? Bush was on some kind of amphetamine. If your buddy came back from the bathroom acting the way old GW was during most of that debate, you would wonder what the hell was wrong with him. Instead he is lauded for his "energy". He was on speed!

11:56 AM  
Anonymous said...

Youse all frikin wack jobs!!!!

Youse all rilly bleve what youse eyes and ears sez stead a whats da white hous sez!?

Youse all wack job librals. Youse all gots no faith!!!!

12:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

If Bush was wired during the debates, or in other previous occasions, I don't think the person on the other side of the wire was Karl or Cheney. They are too high profile and too busy to be Bush prompter. They only need some one who is articulate, who understands the issues, and who has a low profile to play the role of a prompter.

Supposed it is true that Bush was wired, I think they are smart enough to use a system that could circumvent jamming. For the last debate next Wed, I don't think it's possible for Kerry or anyone to search or to do something physically to Bush to unveil anything, if there is anything, under his suit.

The only option is being able to beat both Bush and the alleged prompter using verbal communication techniques.
I'm no expert in this field but I think there should be ways to trick a person using an audio prompter into committing some mistakes.

12:06 PM  
Anonymous said...

Here's a another photo where it looks like Bush might have something under his shirt. Again, inconclusive.

http://www.september11news.com/Sept14BushNYCSurvivorsHug.jpg

M.

12:20 PM  
Anonymous said...

WHAT ELSE WILL TAKE FOR AMERICA TO WAKE UP???!!!

1) HE STOLE THE ELECTION
2) HE MANAGED TO STIR IN PEOPLE'S MINDS OSAMA AND SADDAM, AL-QAEDA AND IRAK
3) HE FAILED CHASING OSAMA
4) HE IS SO INCOMPETENT THAT NEEDS TO CHEAT IN A DEBATE
5) HE TOOK OFF YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS
6) HE LIED TO THE WORLD ABOUT IRAK AND WENT TO WAR FOR THE OIL


GET OFF THE LAZY-BOYS, TURN OFF THE TV'S AND GO VOTE!
DO YOU REALLY WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS?

12:20 PM  
Anonymous said...

This is a good site, but all the preaching is tedious.

12:25 PM  
Said said...

It's disturbing that Bush's press aides or Bush himself hasn't explained the now famous "bulge" (the story made it to the New York Times and Washington Post) Probably he doesn't have an explanation that is:

a) a lie but credible

or

b) true and harmless

12:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

What happened to the photos? I printed them off on Saturday (thank God) and was going to show the web site to friends today and the photos are gone!!! Do photos fall under "free speech"?

Please put the photos back on - we need to see them.

12:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

I would urge everyone to rent The Emperor's Club (2002) starring Kevin Kline. The student/protagonist's (played by Joel Gretsch) comments; "People do what they do to get what they want" versus the professor's (Kevin Kline's) retort" "All of us at some time are forced to look at ourselves in the mirror and see who we really are...How will history remember you?" Plot summary (without giving away ending): William Hundert, a retired "old-school" classics teacher is passionate about his subject. Moreover, he strongly believes in moulding his students by using principles. However, his methods are put to the test by a new student, Sedgewick Bell who shakes Hundert's controlled world and threatens to undermine all that he stands for. Hundert's challenge is to change this young man while maintaining his integrity. Lessons abound for the students and teacher culminating in a reunion 25 years later.

12:41 PM  
Anonymous said...

Leave it to a liberal to spell Iraq "Irak" Have you not at least payed attention to the headlines the past couple of years, because you obviously have no grasp of the issues involving our current war.

I HATE TO BE THE ONLY ONE TO NOTICE THIS, BUT YOU CAN BUY A WIRELESS HEADSET FROM RADIO SHACK FOR UNDER $50. THE TRANSCIEVER FITS IN YOUR POCKET AND IS SMALLER THAN A DECK OF CARDS. IT TAKES A REAL RICHARD CRANIUM TO MAKE THESE ACCUSATIONS.

12:44 PM  
Anonymous said...

The bulge on Bush's back looks about the size of a deck of cards.

--Richard Cranium

12:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

Willisjackson--

I noticed the jumpiness too--and the hyper-abrupt way he cut off moderator Charlie Gibson to make a point. Nobody has mentioned this domineering, breaking the rules, stunt. Why?

Gee, almost sounds like a metaphor for blowing off the UN and invading Iraq.

Lulu

12:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

Ok, just got off the phone with, out of respect for what he told me, and audio engineer at a major media outlet.

He said he was on site setting up for one of the debates. At these on sites they are required to scan the area for RF interference. He said his specrum analyzer picked up several RF bands that were not in the Secret Service saftey frequencies. He said, upon him asking questions of his supervisors about these frequencies, he was approached by 'officials' telling him to 'go blind immedeately' and to forget what he saw and to keep his eyes and ears out of those bands.

All of those RFs are encoded, including the ones used by the networks. He indicated that there may be people, engineers, thatr may hve 'accidentally' left their SAs on and maybe recorded some of the stuff.

Now this is *highly* illegal (thank you FCC) but there may be proof out there.

We need an engineer with 1000 to 1500' location access to record the RF at the next debate. Do NOT try to decrypt the signal. If one recording comes out- perhaps the other folks that are apparently out there with evidence of unusual brodcasts at the first two debates may come forward too.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous said...

That was idiotic. Frankly, I don't believe you.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

It's all over people. Yahoo has replaced the only headline link they had to this story. No signs of interest on any of the major networks. This issue is probably dead- like the brains of the Bush people. We are heading for Civil War in this country.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous said...

Idiotic. I see. How?

And it's fine if you choose not to believe me. I wouldn't believe me either because, like most of the right's talking points, the evidence is anecdotal. That is why I am asking for proof.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous said...

Listen, Bush was emphatically not wired, and if he was, it was with something top secret which you will never have the benefit of hearing admission of. The rest of you who still are not satisfied, are beyond any pschyological help I can offer you.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous said...

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT: "ANY WORKING PERSON WHO VOTES REPUBLICAN IS A DAMN FOOL." JM: ANY WORKING PERSON WHO VOTES "NO" IN A UNION REPRESENTATION ELECTION IS A WORSE FOOL BECAUSE HE/SHE NOT ONLY VOTED AGAINST THEIR FELLOW WORKER - THEY ALSO VOTED AGAINST THEMSELVES. THE ASIDE FROM THE BULGE ON BUSH'S BACK, OTHER REAL BULGES ARE OM THE WALLETS OF BOSS'S WHO FAVOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS ANTI-WORKER POLICIES.

BE HONEST. DON'T YOU ALSO CARRY YOUR WALLET UNDER YOUR COAT AND IN THE BACK FOR FEAR OF PICKPOCKETS, OR. IS JUST THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT DOES IT?

JM

1:08 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://hoffmania.blogspot.com/2004_10_03_hoffmania_archive.html#109727429353942000

nice photo, high resolution, of a hearing-aid like device in bush's left ear.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

I like it when people say, "Bush was emphatically not wired" or "Bush was definitely wired" as if that were all they had to say to prove their point. I especially like it when they call everyone else stupid.

1:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

Conservative policies favor the American worker. Liberals just aren't smart enough, or motivated enough to understand it.

1:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

I am an independent voter with no allegiance to any political party and I would like to know what those humps were on Bush's back during the debates. Why won't the Bush campaign put out a plausible explanation?

1:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

I find it compelling when people say that I'm wrong because I'm stupid.

1:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

Oh if only this administration were Conservative!

1:15 PM  
Anonymous said...

HAHAHA

Previous PostsYou can't be serious. First, it's non-issue. Second, anyone with an hours experience in Adobe Photoshop can put a bulge on George's back. It is a simple matter, which would only take a few seconds.

What you liberals just don't understand, is that what you work for and earn is yours, and what you don't work for is not yours. Why should you expect somebody else to work half of the year to pay for your government programs? You only expect yourself to work for three months to pay your tax bill.

Do you think that John Kerry pays his fair share? His rich, let's look out for the folks tax bill? I say this because he doesn't. In order to evade his tax responsibility he formed a subchapter s corporation with himself as the sole shareholder, and director. As director he has elected to pay himself 300-odd thousand dollars. This may seem like a lot to you, but to Kerry, I assure you it is not. The rest of the millions he earned he merely took as capital gains, at a much lower tax rate. The point is that it is not the extremely wealthy that look after you - the famed top 1%. It is the people that go to work in the dark in the morning and come home in the dark. Pouring their life and thier sole into their job, or perhaps their own business that the grew from nothing. And at the end of the year, yes perhaps they have $150,000 but you know what - they worked harder than you, they took on more risk than you did, and they deserve it.

The other thing is that if you would pull your head out of your *** you would realize that for all intensive puposes BUSH IS YOUR DREAM DEMOCRAT. He expanded Medicare beyond all reason. The reality of the world is that he expanded social programs in this country in an unprecedented rate. The only way in which he is actually a Republican is that he
1. Doesn't Like to Kill Babies
2. Protected you by invading Iraq
-This is true even if you don't think it is.
3. The tax cuts, which benefited everybody (Don't you remember that?)

Get outta here with your bogus story, LOSERS
-dustindufault@yahoo.com
-and-


Anonymous said...

Oh if only this administration were Conservative!
What the liberals don't even realize is that Bush has pandered to their every desire left and right! But they don't see that: All they care about is getting somebody ANYBODY other than bush in office

1:27 PM  
nohabla said...

This may explain a few of Bush's questionable wardrobe moments, like the 'Mission Accomplished' flightsuit bulge (another arificial aid), the debate debacle (Wanna bet the transponder malfunctioned, forcing Bush to hunch his shoulders in an attempt to hear),the way he has been swaggering lately, as though he's recently soiled himself and a penchant for wearing cowboy boots and Stetson by someone averse to horses.

By the way, wasn't that an electric chain saw our Prez was using in that famous "hard work on vacation" photo op, necessitating either lugging a generator into the woods or a half mile long extension cord?

Point is, this guy Bush is all front and no substance, no depth, no character, surrounded by a group more unscrupulous than the great American robber barons, more sinister than the Gambinos in their prime, and more potentially dangerous, because they have control of the most deadly conventional and nuclear weapons arsenal ever, than any despot to have walked the earth before.

And sometimes, in those moments of dark thought that occasionally come upon me I realize all that is stopping them now is an election.

1:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

regarding abortion rights: stay out of my bedroom

regarding tort reform: i want to retain my right to sue, especially for malpractice

regarding energy prices: just look at what happened to the price of electricity in california a few years back to get an idea of what is going on now

regarding corporations: the ability of corporations to generate income without generating jobs, american jobs anyway, is why we have the so-called "jobless recovery"

1:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

To: dustindufault@yahoo.com
From: "Brian Napier" bnapier@mac.com
Add to Address Book
Subject: bush
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:32:26 -0500

bush is pro-abortion you stupid moron

"exceptions for rape, incest or health of the mother"

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS


Ahhhem,
This is the first of what I assume will be a long line of hate mail. Now - If you read the context of my post, you will see that the discussion at hand is how liberal GW really is. He practically is a democrat - so why don't you just vote for him. You idiotic idiot face!

1:43 PM  
Max said...

Anonymous who posted at 8:33 PM, I think that you misunderstood what I was trying to say. It could also mean that you are ignorant. First off, currently, there was rumor of threat in Iraq. Canada, China, and other countries that you mentioned are not currently posing a threat, nor are there any main stream rumors of a threat. Iraq had the potential to be a threat. Maybe you didnt realize that. I despise people like you who dont see the obvious things. If it was me, I wouldnt have even considered taking the time to see if there was a threat. I would have acted immediately. I wouldnt have waited around to make sure that they had weapons, because then it would be too late. Besides, I find it rather interesting that you would take the time to argue with such a logical statement. Also, I would like to say that the only reason you posted as "Anonymous" is because you are a coward. Use your name to post instead.

1:53 PM  
Mr. H.K. said...

Saw a button today: "The Emperor Has No Brains!"

2:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

Max..
"First off, currently, there was rumor of threat in Iraq. Canada, China, and other countries that you mentioned are not currently posing a threat, nor are there any main stream rumors of a threat. Iraq had the potential to be a threat. Maybe you didnt realize that. I despise people like you who dont see the obvious things."

Who's rumor was that? Iraq posed no threat to anybody. They had no weapons- the inspectors knew that the Bush administratioin willfully ignored them while no one else on the planet did, save Great Brittan. Others went with us but they knew that Iraq, under 12 years of successfulsanctions and bombings by the US, posed no threat. Even Kuwait admitted- no threat. There was no potential. The reason they are giving now, one of intent, is the thought police. We have no idea what his intent was- nor is it important becasue that was *never* given as a reason before the war.

These are the obvious things you should be getting incensed about.

2:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

if george is so good, why is saudi bid laden, a mass murderer of americans, and texas ken lay, mass financial rapist, still walking the earth as free men?

2:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

Look we are taking care of one corner of the globe at a time, and certainly are doing better than Kerry, or Gore for that matter could have done or ever will do. Your safety will be jeopardized if Kerry wins the election. It's in his record. He admits on live television that he would not take military action without the UNs approval. Apart from the last resolution passed by the UN that DID give approval to the invasion of Iraq, there were decades of resolutions prior with the same result - uncooperation.

2:11 PM  
Anonymous said...

You know you are wrong, right?
" It's in his record. He admits on live television that he would not take military action without the UNs approval. "

You know that's not at all ever what he said. Are you able to hear the broadcast that is getting to Bush's debate ear piece? You must be because that is a sad parroting of exactly what they tell him to say- and it's just wrong.

2:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

2:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

duh! we WERE attacked while bush was president! right after he took that month long vacation! and, compliments of michael moore, we get to see the president freeze under pressure in a florida classroom when he finds out we have been attacked! he already hasn't kept us safe! america can't take 4 more years of his mumbling/fumbling!

2:21 PM  
Anonymous said...

dustindufault@yahoo.com said: "You can't be serious. First, it's non-issue. Second, anyone with an hours experience in Adobe Photoshop can put a bulge on George's back. It is a simple matter, which would only take a few seconds."

My retort.

uh..yeah. but then getting that image into the cspan live video feed and the fox live video feed is much harder. if you'd bothered to look at the evidence behind the story rather than the partisan 'you're so stupid' messages, you'd already know that. For instance, the nytimes article uses the cspan picture.
so ... do you believe cspan altered the picture? I don't.
So ... once you accept that the photo(s) are not just digitally enhanced photoshop creations, there is a more interesting question. The salon article was the first written and responded to by the white house: they said:

1. this bulge doesn't exist.
2. ok, it does exist but it is not a bulletproof vest.
3. this bulge is a fold/wrinkle in the $8000 suit he was wearing. They even got the tailor to claim it bulged up like that because Bush clenches his arms in front of him and hunches over like monty burns

maybe. maybe. but it has been established the photos are not photoshop creations. it has been established the bulge is not a protective vest.
So... the followup question is why does the fabric bulge look so rectangular, and what is that cord snaking out of it?

on this the whitehouse refuses to comment. They have said he is not using 'audio prompting'
of course the new technology is not audio-based but uses 'bone-conductivity.' no earpiece necessary, a patch on the skin conducts a vibration through the body creating a vibration inside the cochlear canal. hence he hears it without 'audio prompting.'

2:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

Um.... I believe the president is probably just smart enough to realize that there is not anything he could have done in that brief period of time, other than scare a bunch of kids.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous said...

That would still be audio prompting

2:26 PM  
Anonymous said...

I'm an independent and I'm interested in knowing the truth. Could you people just put rhetoric aside and talk about:
1) How do we know for sure what we saw was or was not an electronic receiver?
2) If it's not an electronic receiver, then what is it?

Remember we're just 48 hours away from the next debate.

2:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

that's a new one....a smart do-nothing president....lol

2:28 PM  
Anonymous said...

Max,

You need to get a clue! Go to the link at the bottom of this post and read what the CIA says about whom Saddam was a threat to- the Iranian Revolution that's who! Like Stalin on Hitler, Saddam stood in the way of the crazy Mullahs and kept them scared he had the same gas he used to blunt their human-wave offensives during the Iran-Iraq war. Before you get too annoyed with people who know nothing learn something yourself- Nimrod

Anonymous said...
I must admit, this article (see link below-copy and paste onto your address line) sent chills down my spine. The possibility had never entered my mind that Saddam's coy games about having WMD's, even apparently to the extent of fooling his own generals as well as the UN inspectors, could have been a complex ruse intended not for the U.S., but rather more importantly to keep the Iranian Revolution at bay. I knew that it was utter madness when we removed his boot from the necks of the Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq, where they had been cowed into powerlessness for forty years, but the real stupidity of Bush's war is that we have walked right into the hands of the Iranians by removing the only real impediment to their nuclear (or is that nucular?)domination of the region. Except, of course, for us. No draft? No tax increases? If you believe all that I have some land in downtown Fallujah I'll sell you real cheap.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is the ancient Arab code of the desert. Saddam thought we understood what he was up to. But fratboy cheater Bush and his neocon-jerkoff-cronies, ideologically blinded in an almost Islamic way, will surely go down in history (that is, if there is going to be much of a future) for being so stupid that they could not grasp the reality that Iraq under Saddam, the only truly secular state in the Arab world, was our best hope for long-term regional suppression of the Jihadists. By turning our attention from the real war on terror we have squandered the support of the whole world and stuck our head in a hornets' nest. The first phase of aggressive Islamic Jihad against the world lasted from 711 to 1683. We won that round. But settle down in your seats folks, and grab a bag of popcorn. This next phase is up for grabs, and thanks to Quasimodo RoboBush and his handlers' incompetence it is going to be much more costly and take awhile.

6:34 AM
Anonymous said...
http://tinyurl.com/3knrp

6:35 AM

2:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

it's not audio because there are no soundwaves travelling through air to creating the vibration in his ear.
the neurophone bone conductivity generates a vibration in the ear canal without sound, it would work in a vacuum and he doesn't need an earpiece.

it is still cheating.

2:32 PM  
Anonymous said...

Once again, the VIDEO of the wire under the Bush tie. The resolution is not so good, so if anyone can capture a better image of video from the second debate, about 27 mins from the start, please post it. (c'mon you spineless media networks) It is very plain to see on a normal television. All we want is the whitehouse to explain it, as of now, they are sticking to their "laughable" story.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous said...

ah yes, the white house response:

"that's so ridiculous we refuse to comment. now fuck off or we'll fly you out of the country and torture you to death"

2:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

I've posted a serious way to answer your questions. Place your calls to various news agencies- ask them how they do remote setup- you'll find they sweep the area with something called a spectrum analyzer. They definitely did it at both debates. I sopke with one engineer that was present at one of the debates and he has indicated something was up outside the normally used RF that the SS use... he said that he was appoched by security to turn off the machine and to ignore what he found.

He indicated to me that there may be others who did not ignore those frequencies and have full specrum recordings of the RF at the debate which indicate there is a whole suspicious band range in use.

How about this, call a local affiliate station in AZ and ask their engineers to make full spectrum recordings of the debates. Ask them to record all IFB frequencies.

Let's see what we find.

2:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

Maybe he was just wearing a portable microphone? They sometimes need to wear them during debates, so perhaps that was it?

2:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

Re: Portable Mic

I'm willing to entertain that. Let's ask the Kerry campaign and see if they were approached about wearing a mic?

2:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

I agree that if Bush had a device to hide, he wouldn't hide it under his jacket in the back, but in a pocket or in the waist where it can be easily hiden!

By the way: the link http://www.isbushwired.com/ is out of service.

2:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Um.... I believe the president is probably just smart enough to realize that there is not anything he could have done in that brief period of time, other than scare a bunch of kids.

2:25 PM
You moron! Millions of lives could have been in danger and you think all he was concerned about after hearing that we had been attacked was to worry about scaring kids? You moron!

2:48 PM  
Anonymous said...

I would doubt Bush would use a device that only used one frequency. the new devices out there use an algorithm key to hop from one frequency to another in-synch with the receiver. so you would have to record the whole spectrum, and piece together the 1 sec here 1 sec there bursts of most likely digital encrypted noise.
also they would probably use a short range transmitter so you would have to be within 150 feet or so. They even have transmitters that beam the signal directionally (for example they have built a device that can be aimed at a car window, bounce a laser off it, look at changes in beam frequency to reproduce audio from inside the car.) There's no way security would let a device that scans & records into that zone unless it was brought in by an approved journalist. SO....
Anyone fitting that description would probably have hundreds of hours of work ahead of them to piece the audio together and by then the election will be over. But who knows? certainly this administration has dropped the ball before. perhaps someone has a tape. if so please post it and there are plenty of us with enough cpu time to break encryption

2:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

Found some new photos, better check this out!
http://dustindufault.tripod.com/wires

2:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

Re: Multiple frequencies.
It could be. The engineer I spoke with said *all* the IFB into and out of the debate sites including the TV stuff is encrypted.

Re: a Journalist

Journalists usually know bubkis about the technical workings of the show they are putting on. The people that can give us what we need are the people sitting in the truck making sure that sattellite signal is synched and so on- the tech heads- the people who setup the communications.

Someone like this can help by checking it out. They can check on anything odd they have from the two previous and they can record the upcoming.

Any connections I have are all east coast. Can someone in AZ give a call to the local stations?

2:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

I've got a new theory - you're all WIRED. Please do the world a favor and lay off the crack-cocaine before you go to the polls!

3:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

Associate Editor Washington Post wonders too. Does that make him a kook?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12457-2004Oct6.html

Washington, D.C.: So why hasn't the Post had anything on the mystery bulge in Bush's coat during the
first debate, which some suspect was a hearing device with a campaign staffer giving Bush answers
for the questions? Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but the pictures seem valid enough to warrant
some coverage.
The BBC has covered it, and the New York Times. If I missed it, sorry, but I just searched post.com.
It might explain his scowling, too.
Robert G. Kaiser: We had a story like the NY Times's on Saturday. We also had a truly weird
non-denial denial from Scott Stanzel, a Bush spokesman, in a chat here on washingtonpost.com on
Friday. We'll link to it also.

I have a number of questions about this today. I am intrigued by it myself. If you look carefully at
the picture (and I hope we can give you a link here to an internet version of the photo), it's hard
to think this was some kind of natural fold in the president's suit jacket. But what was it?

The other intriguing bit of evidence is in Bush's answer to a question where he said "let me finish"
in the middle of his answer, when there was no apparent evidence anyone was pressing him or trying
to interupt him. Conceivably he was responding to a look of impatience on Kerry's face at that
moment. Or, as many bloggers are speculating, might he have been talking to a voice in his ear?

I have ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE to support any theory in this matter. But given the apparent visual
evidence of the photo, I hope we can keep pursuing this question and get an answer.

Another possibility, of course, is that Bush has to wear some kind of elaborate bulletproof vest to
keep the Secret Service happy, and that we are seeing part of it in that photo. But the White House
doesn't explain.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

is there a way we can discuss our differences (even our strongly held differences) without all of this name-calling? At the end of this, no matter who wins the election, we are all still citizens of the same country. Couldn't we try to act like it?

3:06 PM  
Anonymous said...

regretably the tech guys in the satellite uplink vans are too far from the debate site to pick the signal up. if it's there. but who knows, again, if they slip up and use a signal that is too powerful, potentially it could be picked up up to 1500 feet out. but i thinks rove & co. would probably use the least amount of signal strength to ensure the protected zone encircled the signal broadcast area.
this RF recording would have to be done from inside the debate auditorium, preferably 90 feet or less from the candidate. All people in there are heavily scrutinized as is all equipment.

3:06 PM  
Anonymous said...

Found some new photos, better check this out!
http://dustindufault.tripod.com/wires

3:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

Any moron who has ever worn a suit knows that is the main part of his suspenders.
The top of the suspenders not only go up the right side but also up the left side. It then goes to the top of his trousers.

For God's sake, if you want to do a real story do one on how if we signed the Kyoto treaty the US's unemployment rating would hit 25% and we would be in another great depression because China is exempt from the rules of the treaty and Kerry would be sending all of our manufacturing jobs to China or Mexico or how if we signed the International Criminal Court treaty, we would all be giving up our Constitutional rights because we all know that the environuts think that driving SUVs is a crime against humanity, so some freak from Europe could enter your American home without a warrant and take you away without a lawyer or anything.
Now, there's a story.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

3:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

3:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

WOW! a must see

3:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

have you seen the new stuff posted at the top of the page about 2 or 3 minutes ago? fascinating. as I said before, sometimes these people just aren't as careful as they should be and the gossip sinks the ship;

from the top:
"Please drop this for the good of our country. We have bigger problems and should not be distracted by matters that don't ultimately determine the measure of an honest man. I want to say that the right answers are what matter most, not whether or not those answers were "fed" my someone else. President Bush is a good messenger regardless.

Thanks, Scott Zale, Senior Staff Accountant, Bush-Cheney Tennessee."

3:12 PM  
Anonymous said...

scott zale implies not only that bush was wired, but that it shouldn't matter that he uses this as a press conference crutch that has been bought (unethically) into the debate forum and that it shouldn't matter because 'it's the message that matters, not the messenger.'
Gee...
I guess it should say Bush & co on the ballot instead of just listing him as the candidate, huh?

3:15 PM  
Anonymous said...

BUSHIE SEZ: Rolling back the tax cut on the wealthiest 1% will hurt small businesses and lose American jobs.

REALITY CHECK: Taxes on these "small businesses" will be rolled back to what they were in the Clinton administration during the 90's...you remember, the last time jobs were being CREATED.

TO SUMMARIZE: Tax levels under Clinton = millions of jobs created. Tax cut under Bush = 1.6 million jobs lost. Not to mention small businesses were making more profits under the Clinton administration.

3:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

Oh, wow. There was "nothing" Bush could've done in the "short" time he sat around an elementary school while hijacked planes were on the loose ramming into our financial and military centers?

You are so smart YOU should be President!

Bush sat around that elementary school for a HALF hour and then flew around hiding for the rest of the day.

When he finally "addressed" the nation, he was PROMPTED. My family and I heard it because our local station mistakenly broadcast the prompter. it was not Bush's voice.

RSM

3:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

It seems the universe produces bigger and more gullible people everyday. Let us think back upon this situation. During the second debate, the candidates were allowed to roam across the room. This alludes to why would you wear a "wire" when you can turn at 360 degrees, it would be more obvious than antennes coming from outside his tie. Also, he IS the president, do YOU ACTUALLY think that they wouldnt have spent more money making it more discrete than it supposedly is, if he was wearing a "wire" which he wasn't. Seocnd of all, if you just don't want Bush to win GO OUT AND VOTE, IT IS AN AMERICAN RIGHT, change your president by voting, not conspiring.

3:32 PM  
Anonymous said...

What do taxes have anything to do with Bush having his debate answers spoon fed to him like a child??????
The Question is: Is Bush Wired? If you want to ramble on about taxes, and God knows you will, go to a board talking about taxes!

3:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

What do taxes have anything to do with Bush having his debate answers spoon fed to him like a child??????
The Question is: Is Bush Wired? If you want to ramble on about taxes, and God knows you will, go to a board talking about taxes!

3:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

Scott Zale speaks for himself 10.Oct.2004 07:54

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Zale link


Please shut down this blog. I was informed this morning by the national editor of the Knoxville Times that my name was invoked by a man named "Brad Menfil" in regards to this out-of-control story.

It is true that I work for Bush-Cheney here in Tennessee. My office is in Gatlinburg, not Knoxville. Although I do happen to work at least two days a week in Knoxville. I am a staff accountant and one of my duties is to process local contributions. As part of that duty, I have to wire funds to the national committee in Washington D.C. So I do have national Republican contacts and have heard many things.

"Brad" is not his real name but I suspect he is or may be my counterpart in the Washington collections office. He has probably been to Tennessee about 15 times in the last 7 weeks, though he does not live here. I won't give his real name (even though he felt it was necessary to give mine).

The Knoxville Times called me at 6am this morning asking me to confirm or deny the "Bush is Wired" story they read here at Portland IMC. My immediate response was, "What is the Portland IMC?" and I then I issued a "no comment". Other than that, I did say that "Brad Menfil" is not a real person.

Please stop speculating about this. Our president is a great man and can only get hurt by this. I suspect this isn't going to go away and I regret anything that I said to "Brad" that may contribute to downfall of a great man and president.

Please drop this for the good of our country. We have bigger problems and should not be distracted by matters that don't ultimately determine the measure of an honest man. I want to say that the right answers are what matter most, not whether or not those answers were "fed" my someone else. President Bush is a good messenger regardless.

Thanks, Scott Zale, Senior Staff Accountant, Bush-Cheney Tennessee.

3:38 PM  
Anonymous said...

What do taxes have anything to do with Bush having his debate answers spoon fed to him like a child??????
The Question is: Is Bush Wired? If you want to ramble on about taxes, and God knows you will, go to a board talking about taxes!

3:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

Where ABC and Fox go... 10.Oct.2004 09:14

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brad Menfil link


Scott Zale is right, "Brad Menfil" is not my real name and I didn't hear this story from him, he heard it from me. Sorry Scott.

I do work for Bush-Cheney and I can olny say that the substance of my first posting is correct, even though I used a fake name. I hope everybody understands why I would do this.

I got a call from Scott this morning (actually, about 10 minutes ago). He said that he had been contacted by ABC and Fox after his own posting.

I don't share his belief that ignoring this would be good for the country. I'm sorry I involved Scott and didn't have enough courage to use my real name. I hope the truth gets out and Scott is absolved.

Thanks for reading this, "Brad Menfil."

3:40 PM  
Anonymous said...

I believe the device seen under Bush's suit was an Assisted Listening Device (ALD), used to filter out extraneous noise.

Two mothers of children suffering from Central Auditory Processing Disorder, independently, on different occasions, recognized in Bush the same symptoms their children with CAPD suffer from.

The reason Bush did so poorly in school? He suffered from CAPD (symptoms are very similar to ADD, the child can hear but can't filter out extraneous noises, making it hard to focus and causing the child to act out in frustration).

The reason Bush sat stupefied when Card whispered that a second plane had struck the WTC towers? He couldn't process the auditory info in what was, to him, the chaos of an elementary classroom.

The reason he has to wear a device in press conferences and debates? He can't filter out extraneous noises and needs a device to do it for him.

The White House needs to explain what the rectangular device was under Bush's suit. This is not a legitimate excuse for Bush to use an aid in the debate. As witnessed on 9/11, Bush is disabled and unfit for office.

========

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139921
Why Bush is Wired: Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD)

To get the right answer, maybe we need to ask the right question.

Two American mothers may have finally pinpointed the "problem" Bush has with language by recognizing some of the same traits their hearing-impaired children have.

If, indeed, Bush has Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) it would explain a lot, from why he did poorly in school and mispronounces
words so frequently... to why he would avoid press conferences. CAPD is a little known disorder that was first described in 1976, so Bush would not have been properly diagnosed growing up.

Last March the suspicions of a friend led Business Week columnist Stan Crock
to write about the possibility that GW suffers from CAPD:

==================================
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/mar2004/nf20040312_0969_db056.htm

My friend says whenever she sees the President, she sees her son's traits...I'm no doctor. I'm a
journalist. But it turns out there's an intriguing consensus afoot, and I'm here to report it.

According to an article on the Internet by Judith W. Paton, a San Mateo(Calif.) audiologist, CAPD is a physical hearing impairment that doesn't
show up as hearing loss but rather affects hearing beyond the ear. In effect, the auditory nerves don't handle the raw data from the ear properly. It's usually found with a cluster of other symptoms. Among the tell-tale
signs she cites: Confusion of similar sounding words, terse communications, better hearing when watching the speaker, and trouble hearing when it's noisy...

What all the experts seem to agree on is that Bush exhibits "phonological" problems, that is, he has trouble breaking apart and putting together the discrete sounds that make up words. That could explain why the President tortures the language so often. And his clowning around could have been a way to compensate....

The infrequency of news conferences could reflect the difficulty someone with CAPD would have in a
press-conference setting. While it would be possible to bone up for a quieter one-on-one grilling by Tim Russert, the noise and distractions of a news conference would make the kind of focus Bush may need very difficult.
===============

The symptoms of CAPD can be mistaken for those of ADD, which might explain some of Bush's readily apparent impatience and frustration:

=================
http://www.homestead.com/agertner/page5.html
These additional processing abilities (memory and attention) can greatly influence how (the) auditory system scans, focuses on, grasps and integrates auditory stimuli. As an aside, this is partially why many people claim to have difficulty distinguishing between APD and ADD.
=================

Symptoms of CAPD:

=================

Symptoms of Central Auditory Processing Disorder
http://www.thehearingclinic.com/siOtherEarCond_CAP.html

Difficulty hearing in background noise
Difficulty following oral instructions
Poor listening skills
Academic difficulties
Poor auditory association skills
Distracted
Inattentive
Poor language skills
Poor memory
Poor problem-solving skills
Asks for things to be repeated
===========================

This is a selective disorder that may give Bush more trouble in certain situations while affecting him less in quiet, controlled situations.

===========================

http://www.homestead.com/agertner/page3.html

(Those) who present with APD have difficulty with some or all listening activities. They have particular problems when the activities occur in less than ideal listening environments. Hence, they may exhibit only mild problems with sound discrimination and they may make occasional errors when speaking on a one to one basis in a good (relatively quiet) environment.
They will perform worse, however, when there is competing background noise or speech, when speakers talk rapidly, when they are not devoting their complete attention to the listening task, when the discussion topic is unfamiliar to them, or when they have to perform or remember several verbal tasks in a row. In addition, they often have weak phonemic systems (speech sound memories used in phonics, reading, and spelling).

==================

While Stan Crock's friend very likely pointed him in the right direction as to the possible cause of Bush's language disability, in his article Stan
only touched on a couple of possible coping devices Bush might be using to compensate for his disorder... eg, giving people nicknames as a memory device and avoiding press conferences which would be confusing to someone with CAPD.

There are other coping devices. Mechanical devices, called Assistive Listening Devices (ALDs).

Another mother, in a post to the Washington Dispatch, believed she also recognized the symptoms of hearing problems that her children also suffer...and suggested that the device worn by Bush during the debates was an ALD, specifically, an "FM loop/box used with an in canal hearing aid."

===============================

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000637.html
While I like the wire theory, you should consider an FM loop/box used with an in canal hearing aid. It may not be that he is that dumb but almost deaf. It would also explain his problems with words. He is saying what he hears. I have a son and daughter with severe hearing losses but not deaf with near perfect speech. This would explain a great deal of what one sees with Bush.
As long as he is doing the talking he is fine. In any environment that requires hearing, he appears lost with that famous vacant look.
=================================================

Take a look at some of the ALDs themselves:

=======================================

http://www.earaces.com/ald.htm

Assistive Listening Devices (ALDs) are amplification instruments that are
designed to be helpful in specific, but not all listening situations.

... the microphone of an ALD is separated from the body of the instrument and is placed at the sound source so that it is most apt to pick up the
desired signal at the expense of background noise. In practice, the ability to selectively amplify signal, but not background noise, is the biggest advantage of ALDs.

http://www.devices4less.com/PersFM.html

The Williams Sound FM group discussion/classroom system includes the T-30 Transmitter ,TWO MICROPHONES in order to cover a wider area. This system features a built-in microphone (Environmental Mic) attached to the new R31
receiver which enables the listener to hear those closest and another wireless microphone/transmitter which may be placed anywhere within 100+ feet. Each listening mode -- nearby sounds and FM transmitted from distant
speaker(s) -- has its own volume control. Optional directional mics may be substituted for either or both of the omnidirectional microphones that are included with the system in order to enhance a particular listening situation.

==============================

and then let's ask the question:

Does Bush require a specialized hearing device?
One that helps him cope with what, for him, has always been a frustrating experience...the inability to focus on and process what he's actually hearing.

RSM

3:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

know why x-files was so popular?

and now it appears this story may prove to be true after all. nobody has to record a transmission or decrypt it. Staff members on the bush-cheney campaign have basically just confirmed it. they'll get their punishment, if they've really just out-ed the prez on the wired conspiracy. the reporters who broke the watergate story went on nixon's enemies list and were audited every year for the rest of their lives.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous said...

Don't fall for this staff member thing, even if're suspicious of the bulge. I think it's a hoax. There is no way to verify who posted those messages. If a Bush campaign worker were really getting calls from Fox News, I find it difficult to believe that he would be posting a non-denial on some Portland blog site.

M.

4:33 PM  
Fast Guy said...

Pretty obvious he was wired. Fastsize BlogBut he is still in the lead in the polls. Amazing.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous said...

I don't think Bush has any problems hearing- except for those who have real facts that is. While they are checking his ears they should check his eyes too! For there are none so deaf as they who will not hear, nor blind who will not see.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous said...

Somebody claiming to be "Brad Menfil" of Knoxville, TN, recently posted on Portland's Indymedia site that he was told by a Bush campaign worker named Scott Zale that Bush is known among many campaign workers to be wired. Scott posted his follow-up statement on the same site.

4:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

Look Guys, Undeniable Proofe They're All Wired!

4:45 PM  
Anonymous said...

a few of those pictures (other than Bush) look like photoshop fun, but I could be wrong. Check this out, much more impressive:

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

4:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

Hearing impediment, Karl Rove, whatever, we just want to know why the President wears a WIRE to the debate. If you can't see it in that video, we apologize, for no media network will come forward with a copy of high enough quality to document the undisputable footage. As well, the Whitehouse refuses to offer an explanation.

4:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

a few of those pictures (other than Bush) look like photoshop fun, but I could be wrong. Check this out, much more impressive:

http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org

4:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

Wrong footage, more like WIRED

4:59 PM  
Anonymous said...

Here is the info for the KNOXVILLETIMES.COM
It was created on 2003-08-19 and the current owner is John Mcevoy: jmcevoy@bigpond.net.au who claims to be with some company called "Mainstream Capital EC" in New South Whales Australia. If someone wants to call him his listed phone number is: 61 413 592 865
Interestingly enough the domain that these servers sit on, 100.com is also owned by John Mcevoy.

Here's the raw info with Addresses:

Mainstream Capital EC
PO Box 71
Milsons Point, New South 2061
AU

Domain Name: KNOXVILLETIMES.COM

Administrative Contact-
John Mcevoy: jmcevoy@bigpond.net.au
Mainstream Capital EC
PO Box 71
Milsons Point, New South 2061
AU
Phone- 61 413 592 865
Fax- 61 2 9251 4686
Technical Contact-
John Mcevoy: jmcevoy@bigpond.net.au
Mainstream Capital EC
PO Box 71
Milsons Point, New South 2061
AU
Phone- 61 413 592 865
Fax- 61 2 9251 4686

Record update date: 2004-08-06 18:21:30
Record create date: 2003-08-19
Record expires on: 2005-08-19
Database last updated on: 2004-09-20 19:17:52 EST

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.100.COM 64.39.236.50
NS2.100.COM 64.39.234.98

5:00 PM  
Anonymous said...

Fuji TV news from Tokyo had a story on bulge this morning. Hee hee. Wonder what Koizumi's thinking now that he knows his good bud's a shameless fraud.

Have any of our (U.S.) major networks found the spine to run this story yet?

If not, how about a wager on which one does it first?

I say ABC, because as any good conservative knows, that network's just stinking cesspool of liberalism and Jenning's a pinko Canuck.

5:02 PM  
Anonymous said...

Here is more info on Mainstream Capital EC:

The ownership company Mainstream Capital EC, headquartered in Manama, Bahrain, with offices in Sydney, Australia, employs editors who regularly review, monitor, edit and rank listings for popular search terms. The site also provides an extensive online news service, which extends to several hundred categories, providing news for all main topics, and for each major city, country and region in the world.

If I was gussing I would say someone was pretending to be from a news service that the didn't understand or simply made up.

I wonder if we can get the caller ID info for the mystery caller?

5:09 PM  
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5:35 PM  
Anonymous said...

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http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org "

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5:43 PM  
Anonymous said...

This should be all over the news -- not the rumors, but some answers. What explains these pictures? C'mon networks, get moving. Check the CNN tapes and see if there is evidence of prompting. Force the White House to explain plausibly what was on Bush's back in the first and second debates. Find the Deep Throat of Audiogate. This administration has become so arrogant, they think they can get away with anything. Or, perhaps, there's nothing there and photos are just - unusual. Or perhaps, it's something else entirely, like a medical device. Regardless, the pictures raise a valid question, and the potential ramifications are huge. And, unfortunately, this administration has lost its credibility -- we can't just believe them because they say so. (Plus, the wrinkle explanation just doesn't pass the laugh test.)

5:52 PM  
Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC:
SINCLAIR BUSH MEGANETWORK TO BROADCAST ANTI-KERRY SWIFTY INFOMERCIAL "NEWS" ELECTION EVE. 13 SWING STATES IN THE BALANCE!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1036078


BOYCOTT THEIR ADVERTISERS, WRITE THEIR EXECS TELLING THEM YOU DID!!! via internet it takes a minute.
http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/index.php

Email this page to your email lists!!!

Do NOT let this s*** go down!!!!

6:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

For hot gay sex and lolitas go to:
http://www.citizenshelpingheroes.org
Brought to you by the nazi company of Clear Channel!

Dude! We F'ing get it! quit posting this Clear Channel propagande BS over and over again! Go find a Republican site to spam.

6:23 PM  
Anonymous said...

Knoxville Times Hoax - and the postings supposedly written from Tennessee

Be very carefull of this... This looks very much like the type of trick Karl Rove and the RNC like to use to discredit critics in the press. Plant a plausible story that sounds true ( and of course is based on something real ) and then sucker over anxious reporters into reporting on it - then proving it's a hoax - story then dropped - believed to be discredited - no double jeopardy in the press.

I did a "whois" search on www.knoxvilletimes.com at networksolutions.com and the owner is a company called Mainstream Capital EC with adminitrative contact in Australia. They seem to be a company that buys plausible domain names to resell them to companys who might want them someday. I googled "Mainstream Capital EC" and came up that they are based in Bahrain (Oil - Middle East) with offices in Australia.

There is a very serious effort to sucker in the press here.

Rove is clever - I just finished reading a novel that was recently published called "Slick" - it's about a PR person who manipulates the news - I wouldn't be surprised if Rove has also read this since he is a PR person - anyway - part of the plot involves planting a basically true story to the media using false evidence - that seems to verify bad things suspected about his client - an entertainer - then after taking the heat for a couple of days "Proof" comes out that the person making the claims was lying - press drops the story - client looks like the victim - the good guy.

This fake news site required a very well financed organized effort to get it up so quickly. In my opinion it is not something that an individual could put together quickly, the above motivation is all I can think of.

6:44 PM  
Anonymous said...

Now that is a conspiracy theory. This hoax is too dumb for Rove anyway. Its much more likely to be some asshole. Probably that guy McEvoy, the CEO of Mainstream Capital, who owns the Knoxville Times site as well as the technology that would enable him to build such a site relatively easily.

M.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous said...

Don't you think that if Bush was wired he wouldn't have said the same thing over and over again? As well as use much MUCH MUCH MUCH better arguments for going to war with Iraq and how he's dealt with terrorism in general? Not to mention someone would have told him to take the scowl of his face.

6:54 PM  
Anonymous said...

For the second time:
Here is more info on Mainstream Capital EC:

The ownership company Mainstream Capital EC, headquartered in Manama, Bahrain, with offices in Sydney, Australia, employs editors who regularly review, monitor, edit and rank listings for popular search terms. The site also provides an extensive online news service, which extends to several hundred categories, providing news for all main topics, and for each major city, country and region in the world.

7:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, do we still live in the 80s? Bush has to have a big box attached between his shoulder blades as a wire? If he had one I guarantee you wouldn't see it. You all must be the same dumbasses that think that the President makes all of the decisions for our country. I'm sorry - have you heard of the congress? If you're angry why don't you focus on your congress men and women and who you are going to vote for there - you bunch of boring, make up anything to disrespect the president, losers.

7:27 PM  
Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, do we still live in the 80s? Bush has to have a big box attached between his shoulder blades as a wire? If he had one I guarantee you wouldn't see it. You all must be the same dumbasses that think that the President makes all of the decisions for our country. Uh.... have you heard of the congress and the senate? If you're angry why don't you focus on your congress men and women and your state representatives- you bunch of boring, make up anything to disrespect YOUR President, losers. Thank God we live in a country where idiots like you all don't get assasinated for making comments like this about the President.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

regarding the "hearing" problem, CAPD is more similar to a learning disability, every sign of which Bush exhibits.

He can't process auditory input in certain situations. If there are too many distractions, such as in a group setting. This is the only explanation which reaches back to his childhood scholastic problems and encompasses everything many of Bush symptoms, the mispronounciations, the acting out, the stupefication...all the way through to needing a listening device to filter out noise!

7:29 PM  
Anonymous said...

I've yet to see post on either side of the debate which uses the word "stupid" or some synonym and which does not itself deserve the epithet. Perhaps these people are just being ironic.

7:55 PM  
Anonymous said...

re: "...When 600+ articles are written in 24 hours about it you can't call it an 'internet conspiracy' anymore..."

LOL ... Links are one thing. Have you even read the articles being written about it? They are (by a wide - very wide - majority) making fun of you people! This is too hilarious for words! Enjoy the koolaid, kids!

7:59 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=XYQB0X13ZNMPKCWMEAQCFEQ?whoistoken=0&_requestid=173549

Whois for
Knxville times

sorry if its been posted before

8:05 PM  
Anonymous said...

Bush lover said:

Thank God we live in a country where idiots like you all don't get assasinated for making comments like this about the President.

7:29 PM

I'm guessing you wish you could though don't you? Just kill everybody off who disagrees with you? Mark my words people- the chickens will come home to roost. Reagan, North, Abrams, Poindexeter et al were responsible for the death-squad liquidations of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the 1980's in order to pave the way for the Global Economy. Anyone who resisted the control of all land by our Multinational Agribusiness corporations or who refused to work for 20 cents an hour in Wall Street's sweat shop factories was branded a communist and jailed, tortured, (Abu Ghraib is standard operating procedure) if they were lucky or buried in unmarked mass graves if they weren't. Now the world is all sewn up and it's time to turn to domestic traitors, communists, liberals, whatever they want to villify their opponents as. Listen to the hate pouring from these fascist's mouths. Do you really think it can't happen here? Civil War is coming folks. This whole election stealing game being perpetrated on us by electoral/electronic means is the way these filthy rich elites are accustomed to having the world delivered to them. Rules don't apply to them, just the scum. Are you ready for their final solution?

8:13 PM  
Anonymous said...

A hall NATION saw BUSH cheated!

Its not a faked script kiddy image "NO!"

ITS FOX NEWS+BBC+CNN and growing and GOV image gallerys who show evidence.

AMERICA OPEN YOUR EYES STAND UP AND ASK THE PRESIDENT:

"What was the president wearing during the debate?"

"What is he hiding for the public?"

"Is the president ill?"

"Is he still functional on his own?"

Sure the election is close and they already told the news its a BULGE - but IMAGE shows diffrent FACT its a PROOF!

Bush trys to sit it out now....dont let em get away this time!



ITS BEEN BROADCASTED

and END this stupid WAR over 1000 casualties counting!

8:34 PM  
Anonymous said...

the tailor's quote makes no sense (not suprising!). A "pucker" in the suit would not show up when Bush leans forward! That motion flattens out your suit (which is why we see the receiver).

I was wondering how that idiot (Bush, not the tailor) was pulling out so many facts in the 2nd debate.

I think his wire was not working in the 1st debate. Thus explaining his readily visible incompetence!

8:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

if this is a planted story by rove et al like the dan rather piece ... i think it's backfired.
it's just so complex, so multifaceted, I doubt they orchestrated it. I feel something like this is beyond their abilities. And maybe it isn't true. (Ultimate hoax by the independent culture jammers?) but the pictures were the first snowball rolling down the mountainside and now it's bigger than anyone ever realized it could become.

The part I find the most humor in are the bush-devotee's, probably staff members dedicated to typing in idiot, moron, liberal etc. over and over.
They've missed that ULTIMATELY, a larger cross-section of the public doesn't trust their candidate anymore. so whether this story is true or not, ultimately it's not whether it's true it's whether it's believable. It's whether that 2% that will swing the election will look at the pictures and think perhaps bush is even dumber than I at first suspected. I mean, obviously John Kerry doesn't need a hidden microphone because he's like a yale debate team captain, could argue in 5 languages, 50 times smarter and is entirely capable of coming up with his own lines.
Your candidate, on the other hand, comes off like a retarded actor. Like a chimp that learns sign language, it's fascinating of course. They bought him for the name recognition and now they're practically holding up cue cards hoping they can get their moneys worth out of his forest gump act.
Ah yes, bush, you know what he stands for. Or rather, what he's been told he stands for.
And no matter how much information he gets, his opinion will never change. if it was even HIS opinion to begin with.

If and when they lose they may find themselves wishing they'd spent more on the performance than the brand name.

8:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

There is not a single person commenting here who knows shit about politics so stop pretending. No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us.

Fucking morons.

8:56 PM  
Anonymous said...

at 7:27pm anonymous said:
I'm sorry, do we still live in the 80s? Bush has to have a big box attached between his shoulder blades as a wire? If he had one I guarantee you wouldn't see it.

yeah, right, like he's come off as a real pro so far. remember shock and awe? I'm shocked he hasn't been impeached and I'm in awe cheney hasn't had a heart attack yet. but then again in an administration so secretive i doubt a cheney heart attack would ever hit the news. cheney is the type to have his doctor snuffed just so the story won't get out.

8:57 PM  
Anonymous said...

calling people morons...
have you looked at the pictures? because something IS there. They claim his $8000 suit (paid for by the taxpayers just like the other 199 he probably charged to us this term) had a flaw, a fabric wrinkle in it. sure.

and why specifically did his 38 page election debate rules specify no networks were to film him from behind?

so blow me you administration slut.
perhaps your candidate is even lazier than we suspected.

9:01 PM  
Anonymous said...

LOL ... this site allows an obvious false post to remain and then others try to blame the 'fake site' on the Republicans? You guys are great. Hollywood couldn't come up with a more pitiful bunch of conspiracy theory goofs!

... "Mainstream Capital EC" and came up that they are based in Bahrain (Oil - Middle East) with offices in Australia."

Where does it say that? The WHOIS is right here:

http://webyield.net/domainquery.html#whois

Go there, type in 'knoxvilletimes' and see for yourself! And it states nothing of the kind. And then, go to this Google.com search

http://tinyurl.com/45nmc

Mainstream Capital EC has been around for a long time and it says nothing about Bahrain... just incredible...

"There is a very serious effort to sucker in the press here."

and, it gets even funnier ...

"This fake news site required a very well financed organized effort to get it up so quickly. In my opinion it is not something that an individual could put together quickly, the above motivation is all I can think of."

Setting up a site like that is simple. Just check out Sourceforge.net for any number of free applications that can have it up and running (even with the plugins/add-ons) in an hour or two. Well financed? What a laugh! 'Cause you geeks know that is true. One of you probably set it up to add to the 'misdirection' of your 'blog' - then, when caught - try to blame it on others?

That explanation is just as believable as anything else written here.

How ludicrous can you people be? The only suckers are the people that are believing this site!

9:03 PM  
Anonymous said...

the photos went out through the fox & cspan video feed, so ...
something is there. I think your claim there is an obviously false post just shows this site values the 1st ammendment more than your candidate does.
And perhaps the hump on bushes back is even more unnatural than your defense of him;

9:06 PM  
Anonymous said...

Zheng here from China. I am not surprised at all if Bush was wired. He does not come across as an intelligent man anyway. I was told his general knowledge was almost nil before he was elected President or still is. If he was really wired, I think Kerry was right to say this was indeed a weapon of mass deception.

By the way, the way the American mainstream papers handle this issue is also quite astonishing. Are they afraid of Bush's threat that "either you are with me or not". I didn't know American journalists could be so timirous esp with their self-proclaimed investigative journalism and independence of press. Maybe it is time Bush stops preaching all these values to the rest of the world.

I have also read the posts purportedly sent in by Bush supporters. They are like him - foul-mouthed and do not quite have a brain to argue issues on substance.

Oh...how I love this site...

9:08 PM  
Anonymous said...

CAREFUL, CAREFUL, CAREFUL.

This whole Tennessee/Scott Zale bit seems like a planted story to me ..... planted by the Repubs. What they'll do is let speculation run a bit and then come up with proof/alibi that "Scott Zale" had nothing to do with the post and story - thereby trying to discredit the WHOLE wired story by having one piece of refutable evidence.

I don't believe any Bush supporter would write anything close to the letter purportedly written by "Scott". Maintain healthy skepticism.

9:09 PM  
Anonymous said...

welcome zheng.

couldn't agree with you more.
and the beauty of blogs is we are all so paranoid here we post anonymously and so lack the accountability the press faces, of being bankrupted by a bunch of bullies in retaliation.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous said...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/images/20020809-1_ranch8-515h.html

9:14 PM  
Anonymous said...

I hope...
whether this story is true or not, part true, part not...
I hope that bush loses 3% as a result of it and that costs him the election. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. I hope it's worth 3%.
And the picture is indisputable. that is the reason the ap, reuters, washingtonpost, the nytimes, the bbc, xinhua the chinese press etc have all run it..
the picture came right out of the live tv feed

9:16 PM  
Anonymous said...

it's been said its not until you can prove a man is lying to you that it really bothers you.

Bush laughs off inquiries as "ridiculous"

9:24 PM  
Anonymous said...

This one goes out to everyone reading this, Bush supporter or non-Bush supporter, this is what you all sound like:

Ehem...


Dingleberries!!!

FARTARD DINGLEWAD


NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK!


(Go Kerry! You rock!)

9:27 PM  
Anonymous said...

For the past few years I thought that Bush was a fascist puppet chimp.

Finally I understand why.

Simply put: Bush is a satanic gift from hell, a new flavor of evil - a BIG GOVERNMENT republican who wants to ram his religion down your throat.

Some words of advice for Bush-lovers:
- learn to spell
- learn to compose a sentence

9:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

Wow, that's about as intelligent as this blog...

9:30 PM  
Anonymous said...

At first I was skeptical but after the pictures and the video clip (prior to the debates) where you hear the lines being fed to him before he speaks them, plus the more recent Republican convention where they were nervous about cell phone frequencies only on the day he gave his speech--that and his strange darting eye movements and long pauses we have seen in the debate--it could very well be. Sad but possible. Couldn't the Commission on Presidential Debates check the candidates for wiring/ear/molar implants, etc.? It's totally illegal in the debate rules...

Janet H. Brown, Executive Director
Commission on Presidential Debates
1200 New Hampshire Ave NW Suite 445
Washington, D.C. 20036
202-872-1020
jb@debates.org

Or, perhaps more effective is to do nothing now and have someone with the technical experience in the Tempe area interfere with the signal this Wednesday. This way if he is not wired, then it is no biggie, and if he is he will come unglued and maybe be shown for the sad case he would be if that was true.

9:32 PM  
Anonymous said...

Kerry is so much better than bush because like he can speak correctly.

And also Kerry says lots of good things during the debates while Bush just looks stupid, that's why Kerry should be president. Bush is so dumb, just look at him!

9:33 PM  
Anonymous said...

I think the Bush supporters now have disguised themselves as Kerry supporters by name-calling.@%$@%#%$ etc As usual, Republicans should stop disguising..

9:34 PM  
theresa said...

This story of "Melfi" smacks of Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch. Please people, tread lightly, these people are powerful and dangerous....just ask Dan Rather and CBS. Put out a truthful story and make it look like a fake. That is Rove's M.O. We have to find our way to seek the truth without someone (Melfi), handing us the story on a silver platter. Beware!! We all know the President was being prompted when delivering his responses at the debates, we just have to find the right person(s) to come forward and expose the truth. What a coincidence that this Newspaper-Knoxville Times, has connections to Australia??? Let's do some investigating.

9:36 PM  
Anonymous said...

As Barbara Bush put it in telling Diane Sawyer why she doesn’t watch the news: "Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it’s gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose. Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

I don't know, maybe because it's your family that's responsible for it all? How does that reflect on you as a mother?

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_12498.shtml

From pynchon's gravitys rainbow:
Jake Gittes: "Why do you need it? You’ve got enough money."
Noah Cross: "The future, Mr. Gittes. The future."

9:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

I cannot believe that you people have a say in the next election...I am moving to Europe.

9:37 PM  
Anonymous said...

This board is just getting childish.

Anyone know of a site where we can discuss politics like adults?

9:39 PM  
Anonymous said...

do you mean in a country where we don't have to post anonymously because we fear being hunted down like animals for disagreeing with our leaders?

9:42 PM  
Anonymous said...

"ANONYMOUS SAID: do you mean in a country where we don't have to post anonymously because we fear being hunted down like animals for disagreeing with our leaders?"

What??? Please elaborate

9:46 PM  
Anonymous said...

"ANONYMOUS SAID: do you mean in a country where we don't have to post anonymously because we fear being hunted down like animals for disagreeing with our leaders?"

I emphasize the hypocrisy of his statement.

9:49 PM  
Anonymous said...

elaborate? ok
on this board over 99% are posted anonymously.
many fear retaliation.
after all christ got nailed to a cross and bush is far more powerful than rome;

9:49 PM  
boldface said...

To the Anonymous who disputed the Mainstream Capital EC having offices in Bahrain, and I quote:
>Where does it say that? The WHOIS is right here:
>
>http://webyield.net/domainquery.html#whois
>
>Go there, type in 'knoxvilletimes' and see for yourself!
>And it states nothing of the kind. And then,
>go to this Google.com search
>
>http://tinyurl.com/45nmc

You should check your facts out before you blow your wad mate, this is from your google search, from - http://www.online-casinos-123.com/casinosindex/onlinenews/looksmart_search_results_t.htm - in fact:

"The ownership company Mainstream Capital EC, headquartered in
Manama, Bahrain, with offices in Sydney, Australia, has signed a
contract with LookSmart, Ltd. to include LookSmart's directory
listings and bid-for-placement distribution network amongst its
search results."

So quit whining and start panicking, cause maybe your big bad Bush might just have to fess up on this one eventually...

9:50 PM  
Anonymous said...

10 meg good quality video of major protrusion from bush's left shoulder in dedbate 2. What is it?

Get clip here:
http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/bush_majorprotrusion_debate2_10_8_2004.mpg

9:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

by the way, that video is about the 50 minute mark and is in super slow motion to give a good look. I'm not sure if it was this thread or not, but I also posted photos from the footage before and apparently folks didn't believe because it was so obvious that there was somehting under his jacket in the 2nd debate. The photos are:

http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/1.jpg
http://bradandsasha.com/images/bushit/2.jpg

10:05 PM  
Anonymous said...

brad & sasha
well done on the convincing pictures. there are still bush supporters that would say he was christ himself even if he grew horns

10:08 PM  
Anonymous said...

Easy on the conspiracies please. I've been following and posting to this site. The idea that Bush was wired is reasonable, not because Bush is stupid and can't think for himself, but because receiving information in a debate would be a big advantage no matter who you are, and I'm sure that many political candidates would cheat if they could get away with it. The stakes are very high. Moreover the photographic evidence is decent (though not decisive).

The theories about Karl Rove's hoaxes, however, are bogus. Such hoaxes would be much harder to pull off, there is no evidence that the campaign was behind it, and there are other plausible explanations. That guy McEvoy who owns knoxvilletimes.com is the CEO of a company that develops technology to, among other things, customize local news sites, so it's not that hard to imagine that he or someone connected to him set up the fake site. There are plenty of reasons for a lot of people to attempt such a hoax, for fun or for politics. Finally, this Knoxville Times hoax was so easily deflated, I can't image that anyone with Rove's brains would think that he could deceive the press.

With regard to the CBS hoax, please. The source of the National Guard document was Bill Burkett, as both CBS and Burkett acknowledged. Burkett has been trying to get people to listen to his story about destroyed National Guard records since Bush was governor of Texas, so unless Rove had employed Burkett long before Bush ran for President, anticipating the 2004 campaign with incredible foresight, the theory doesn't make sense. You need to accept the most plausible explanation, even if you like the implausible explanation more. I'm not saying that Bush didn't play all kinds of games with the Guard. I'm saying that you need to stop trying to make Rove into this evil supergenius.

So let's by all means continue to investigate the mystery bulge the best we can (acknowledging that it might be a receiver but not necessarily), and let's try to figure out who is behind the Knoxville Times hoax if we can, but let's not get carried away. The more this site becomes a haven for conspiracy theories, the less credible it becomes.

M.



, and the pictures

10:31 PM  
theresa said...

In response to M's post, Please go to mercurynews.com and read the story entitled Karl Rove's World, it was posted 10/10/04. You will find all the info on Karl Rove, and yes, he is evil, but I am not sure about the supergenius part. Rove did get Dubya elected governor of Tx, and president. And he is friends with Rupert Murdoch, who is from.......Australia. And, of course controls much of the media in the U.S., including our friends FOX news. I don't want this to be a site of out of whack conspiracy theories either, but some of these things are..you know...connected.

10:58 PM  
Anonymous said...

Having read a good portion of the postings and comments on this great site, I am personally convinced Bush was wired for the debates, if not for many previous occasions.

I don't know if this is a crime in the legal sense, it certainly would be a flagrant violation of the debate rules, and if proven and exposed, it would only help convince some of those undecideds that this man is unfit to hold any office anywhere, including that of dogcatcher!

The main point now, is what's next??

Will Bush allow himself to be strip-searched Wednesday nite?

Assuming that his handlers and string-pullers dare to wire him for a third debate (where could they hide the retransmitter this time -- maybe in crotch, probably a lot of room there without the stuffed wadding he used on the carrier landing), can Bush be caught in the act?

Would it be possible for any tech-savy journalists or others to bring sophisticated frequency-sweeping equipment into or near the debate site and obtain solid evidence?

Somebody better get to work!!!

Joe

11:07 PM  
Anonymous said...

I remember on Jay Leno's show there is a segment called "Is President Bush's Spanish better than his English?", which shows Bush's good command of his Spanish. If Bush uses an audio prompter while speaking English, does he do the same while speaking Spanish?

After reading the posts here, I've watched some short segments of speeches Bush made on the campaign trail and I don't see Bush stumbling on his words. He doesn't appear to wait for an audio prompt either. He sometimes looks down on the podium perhaps to see the printed speech.

So my question is why sometimes Bush seems to be a normal person with his reading and speaking skills and sometimes he does not?

11:17 PM  
Anonymous said...

Is Karl Rove a brilliant strategist? Sure. Does he run the Bush campaign? Sure. Does he engage in dirty tricks? Sure. But that doesn't mean that he's responsible for everything that happens to help out the Bush campaign.

I'm not even suggesting that it's impossible for Rove to set up a hoax that he know will backfire on the press. It's just implausible for even a bright guy like Rove to set it up just right--effective enough to fool CBS but not so effective that it fools everyone. And if you're pushing an implausible theory, you had better have better evidence than two guys who live in Australia.

M.

11:22 PM  
Anonymous said...

Incredible

I saw today on international news from southamerica a close up on Bush's ear, and there it was, the earpiece!!!

12:08 AM  
Anonymous said...

Nobody is going to be strip searched on Wednesday night. Have you noticed your friends at the very liberal media are not carrying this story? It's because even if Bush did choose to be wired (he didn't), he would not do it by wearing some crazy suspenders-like-transciever suit strapped to his back. You guys really need to have your heads examined.

12:10 AM  
theresa said...

Everyone should view the movie just released on DVD, "OUTFOXED, THE RUPERT MURDOCH STORY", It is very enlightening.

1:42 AM  
theresa said...

Everyone should view the movie just released on DVD, "OUTFOXED, THE RUPERT MURDOCH STORY", It is very enlightening.

1:44 AM  
Anonymous said...

Interesting... Dubya Vanilli in the house!!!

Look here for another great clip of Bush:
http://www.funtrunk.com/XL/?ID=1547

And far more interesting is the fact that Bush and Kerry were both members of Skull and Bones. Look here for info:
http://www.funtrunk.com/XL/?ID=1512

Loose the focus.